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>>>I bet the new Digitech Jamman is better in some ways than the RC-20, but neither compares to a looper with fucking feedback control-- I want to own a delay with extended loop time (40-50 seconds is enough) and MIDI control of the feedback and loop time after the loop is closed. Multiply and windowing would be nice too--and heck, multiple tracks. Maybe some day . . . Gary<<<< Keep an eye on the development of the Looperlative - all of these things will be possible in the software, it'll just take Bob a while to get the features programmed in and available as updates. Even with the features as they are now (the first Beta-unit) it's the second most versatile looper I've ever used after the EDP, and already has things that you couldn't possibly do on the EDP available, like the multiple track thing (with individual feedback for each later), stereo loopage, lots more loop time and instant multiply (hit a button to multiply the loop by whatever multiple you've chosen - ie 4 times as long - drop an event into that, knowing that it'll only come back round every four repeats) - I'm really really excited about the development of this box, am having stacks of fun with it, and am chomping at the bit for the next software update in the run-up to NAMM - definitely come and find me there, and I'll talk you through it! I'll also definitely be using on my gig on the 12th Jan at Darbucka in London, and on all my gigs in CA (it'll be the only looper I have with me) - I'll be happy to do a quick demo for anyone who wants it before or after each of the gigs... cheers Steve www.stevelawson.net - site www.stevelawson.net/store/ - shop http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog