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>>>What would be nice is if Bob had someone create a web-based survey of all the available features on the LP1, first release, along with list of possible features, and have us prioritize the entire list. In other words, let the potential buyer define the feature set.<<< It's already there... it's called Looper's Delight. Bob's been a subscriber and poster here for years. his understanding of looping requirements is pretty well tied in with the nature of discussions here. the reason for having beta testers is to check whether the software works and to have people try out all the stuff that loopers are likely to want, most of it based on discussion on here. And also to have people to interact with on the process rather than spending all day every day fielding requests/complaints/demands from people who aren't a committed part of the project. the LD community can be pretty damn demanding when it comes to things like this, and Bob clearly has a limited amount of time to field this stuff given that it's just him (I don't work for Looperlative, I'm just doing the beta- testing, and am an endorsing artist of the box) - I'm sure Bob would have been answering all this himself, but he's off work on holiday at the moment... ...which means that all of this stuff is my thoughts, not official company policy. :o) Oh, and there is a looperlative forum if you want to post questions/ comments/ideas already. If you have some feature that would been the deal breaker in you buying one, post it on the forum. I'm sure Bob knows about it already from here, but it can't hurt. ;o) cheers, Steve www.stevelawson.net - site www.stevelawson.net/store/ - shop http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog