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>>>I like your diagrams, Steve. So, what happens when you make loop three the master sync loop? When do the loops 1 and 2 start over again relative to this loop? In other words, when loop 3 ends, do loops 1 and 2 start over, or keep on going? If the latter, then how are they synced to loop 3? Maybe you are saying that they can't be. Or when your loop 1 and loop 2 are different lenghts, and you make the longer one the master? Can you diagram that and show what happens to the excess Xs or Os? Does the shorter loop repeat and go only part of the way to fill in the space of the longer loop?<<< nothing at all happens to loops one and 2 when 3 becomes the master to sync to - nothing happens to loops already recorded by changing anything on any other loops. The point of changing loop 3 to be the sync master is so that the loops that come afterwards can be layered on top. of course, I guess I ought to mention that you can also layer on top of each layer if you want, but there's no undo function for that, so it makes more sense to do them on separate loops so you have more choices for feedback levels, volume levels routing to the aux outputs etc. But just in case it's still unclear, loop 3 will not change loop 1 or 2, there's no way of retriggering the start of either of those loops by doing anything to other loops. i think it'll be fun if Bob put in the rounded multiply to indivdual loops. Not sure how it would implement across separate loop tracks, but with it the way it is, you can do everything that rounded multiply does (shit, I'm losing track of which is rounded and which is unrounded - I've been typing about looping for too long today, and not playing enough...) except force a rhythm out of a glitchy loop - at the moment you can't resample sections of one loop. That would be a great addition. cheers! Steve www.stevelawson.net - site www.stevelawson.net/store/ - shop http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog