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Addendum: A training DVD, in place of a paper-based manual, would be a great selling tool. And clips posted to a website would help people see what is possible - and how to do it. If there were online video-clips showing what could be done with the EDP, I'm very sure sales of that device would be 30% higher (at least!). David ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Kirkdorffer" <vze2ncsr@verizon.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:44 PM Subject: Re: looperlative control > One more thing on a related note.... > > Enough (and that is an arguable and subjective quantity, to be sure) of the > Looperlative's capabilities *must* be immediately usable/available so the > buyer can get a feel for what is possible. > > If the capabilities in the Looperlative are only really accessible after > programming a midi footpedal, that makes it very hard to try-out or evaluate > in a store. It this happens, then the best sales tool you have is the Users > Manual, which for the potential buyer becomes the only way to know what >is > possible. > > David > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Kirkdorffer" <vze2ncsr@verizon.net> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:03 PM > Subject: Re: looperlative control > > > > Cool. We disagree. You like mucking about in midi. I don't. > > > > I disagree that "excellence" in footpedal design would be required. > > > > An EDP style footpedal (Record, Overdub...) with one more button to switch > > "Loop Tracks" would widen the market for a Looperlative rackmount >device a > > lot. > > > > The alternative is to require the purchase and programming of a > > midi-footpedal so you can start and stop "Record" with your feet (because > > your hands are busy on an instrument or because your rack is 15 feet > away). > > That right there will severely limit the market for this cool new tool. > > > > That stated, I assume there will be no footpedal for the Looperlative. > And > > we can argue till the cows come home how much of a market is cut-off by > > requiring the purchase and programming of a midi footpedal for the > > Looperlative. > > > > David > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tom Ritchford" <tom@swirly.com> > > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > > Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 3:26 PM > > Subject: Re: looperlative control > > > > > > I don't agree at all. MIDI footpedals are cheap and plentiful -- you > > can just get one and plug it in the back. Excellence at looper design > > doesn't imply excellence at footpedal design... I'd rather the time > > was spent improving the looperlative rather than designing Yet Another > > Footpedal. > > > > On 12/31/05, David Kirkdorffer <vze2ncsr@verizon.net> wrote: > > > Steve - Thanks for your answer. I'm a non-midi person. I don't use > > > laptops. My selfish desire is to have a EDP style footpedal (Record, > > > Overdub...) with one more button to switch "Loop Tracks." That would > get > > me > > > a lot - perhaps more than I can imagine fully using right there. > > > > > > And I would very humbly suggest that such a non-midi footpedal would > open > > > the Looperlative up to a much larger marketplace of buyers. :-) > > > > > > David > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Steve Lawson" <steve@steve-lawson.co.uk> > > > To: "Loop List" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > > > Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 2:57 PM > > > Subject: looperlative control > > > > > > > > > > >>>So - if I'm understanding the implications of this posting, the > > > > Looperlative > > > > requires a Midi interface / footpedal to operate its functions. But, > > > > does > > > > that mean no functions are controllable without midi?<<< > > > > > > > > have a look at www.looperlative.com - the picture there shows the > > > > front panel, which has button control for rec/overdub, play/stop >and > > > > then four user programmable buttons to whatever functions you want to > > > > have on them. I have mine set to 'stop now' (the play/stop button >is > > > > quantised to the end of the loop), 'erase', 'all stop' and, er, > > > > something else I can't remember... > > > > > > > > you can also access all the possible operations on any one track >via > > > > the buttons and dial (at the moment I'm doing all my feedback control > > > > via the buttons and dial), and same with all the global functions > > > > (overall volume, play all, stop all, etc.) > > > > > > > > But in case it's what you were asking, there are no other ways to > > > > connect controllers at the moment than via the MIDI port - though I > > > > guess it could be possible for Bob to write some kind of ethernet > > > > thingie into the controller features at some point so you could rig > > > > something up via your PC. > > > > > > > > cheers > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > www.stevelawson.net - site > > > > www.stevelawson.net/store/ - shop > > > > http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > /t > > > > http://ax.to ... extreme NY arts and music calendar > > >