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> sophistication & hip hop are not cohesive...redundant & childish fit the >bill Hiphop's now twenty-five to thirty years old, so like most adults in my neighborhood, I don't think it's going to go away because you disapprove of it. Besides the same thing's been said about just about every new music that's come up: rock, jazz, waltzes, Broadway show tunes, ambient, looping... Hey, Stravinsky's music started a _riot_. Guess we're just gonna have to live with it. ;-) This is kind of long-winded but please let's not start a thread about the music each of us hates. I've seen this thread on just about every forum I've ever been on and it's boring. Cheers, Kevin www.TheNettles.com