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> By the way, if soloing over 7/8 seems daunting write me off list and >I'll > show you some really simple exercises > to get free in that rhythmic space........................you'll see >that it > is actually no more complicated than playing in 4/4..............you just > haven't done it since you were a kid like they have there. You can actually get the hang of odd meter really fast if you don't count in numbers but in syllables, which takes advantage of our speech centers. Just about all European odd meters can be broken down into groups of two and three beats. For the two beats say "Taki" and for the three beats say "Gamela". So for two seven beat patterns: Taki-Taki-Gamela, Taki-Taki-Gamela,... or Gamela-Taki-Taki, Gamela-Taki-Taki,... If you ever hear Garaj Mahal perform "Poodle Factory" live, you'll hear this to hilarious effect. They get the _whole_ audience to sing along at the maximum physically possible tempo the following loop: Poodle poodle factory, poodle factory Poodle poodle factory, poodle factory Poodle poodle factory, poodle factory Poodle factory, poodle factory, poodle factory which a musicologist might call three bars of 11/4 followed by three bars of 5/4. Cheers, Kevin www.TheNettles.com