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incidentally, if any of you guys read tape-op magazine (for home studio junkies like myself, and it's FREE!), there's a great interview in the current issue with Hank Shocklee, producer behind Public Enemy. he talks about having 3 seconds of 4-bit sample time and looping back in the day, about how hip hop used to be all about innovation and experimentation and doing something unique, but now is largely about trying to sound like someone else, about how indie rock is currently where that adventurous spirit is, and about how good music, whatever kind, should touch the SOUL, first and foremost, and that that is something people often lose sight of. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com