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Re: ODD TIME RHYTHM GAMES was Maybe why Avante-garde looping in US...



wonderful lesson ma an thank you!!!!
Luis

> 
> "Rick, i was asked one time to explain the rumba
> clave
> in 6/8.............how would you explain it with
> syllables?"
> 
> 
> 
> I love this one because it is a great example of
> "playing odds in the evens"
> 
> You can think of the 6/8 Rumba Clave     as  a
> combination of the phrases 5 
> + 7
> 
> (Taki)(Takita)(Taki)(Taki)(Takita)
>   1 2    3 4 5    1 2    3  4    5 6 7
> 
> This rhythm,  it is interesting to know,  is almost
> non existent in West 
> Africa
> whereas the 6/8 Son Clave is found almost
> everywhere.
> 
> You can think of 6/8 Son Clave as 7 + 5
> 
> (Taki)(Taki)(Takita)(Taki)(Takita)
>   1 2     1 2   1 2 3     1 2   1 2 3
> 
> 
> PLAYING ODDS in the EVENS
> 
> Here's a great game, by the way.
> 
> If the 12 notes of 6/8  can be played as 7 + 5
> 
> then two bars can be thought of as    7 + 5 + 7 + 5
> 
> Rearrange those phrases and you get  7 + 7 + 5 + 5
> 
> By doing this you have now played  a phrase of 14
> and a phrase of 10
> 
> The first phrase of 14 then crossed the bar line.
> 
> In 4/4 with 16th notes    you can play 9 + 7 + 9 + 7
>  =   9 + 9 + 7 + 7  or 
> two exact bars of 4/4
> 
> Try this concept as a soloing idea over a typical
> funk groove and tell your 
> band mates to hold onto their hats
> (and the groove).
> 
> It sounds like you have gone to Mars in your solo
> and yet you land right 
> back on good 'ol  ONE when you finish the phrase.
> 
> In 6/8 I love to play this game by rearranging these
> simple addition phrases
> 
> 12 =  3 + 9
>      =  5 + 7
> 
> So , in two bars you can get a beautiful cascading
> phrase that diminishes 
> 9 + 7 + 5 + 3
> 
> Try this now in 4/4 (using 16ths again)
> 
> 16    =  13 + 3
>         =  11 + 5
>         =   9  + 7
> 
> So,  in three bars you can play  13 + 11 + 9 + 7 + 5
> + 3     This diminishes 
> nicely (and is easy for an audience to hear though
> difficult to hold the groove underneath
> it...................lol,  but it's 
> good for your rhythm section to learn how to play
> it)
> 
> ************************
> 
> This brings me to a concept that I have come up with
> myself about using Odd 
> Time combinations.
> 
> It's what I call the concept of the BROKEN PULSE.
> 
>  <A broken pulse is any even pulse that has one note
> added to the last 
> pulse>
>                                                     
>                         
>                 >       >      >
> If I play a rhythm of 6 notes  I can get 3 EVEN
> PULSES      Ta ki Ta ki Ta 
> ki
>                                                     
>                         
>        Sing:  1  *   2   *  3  *
> 
>                                                     
>                         
>                 >        >      >      >
> If I play a rhythm of 8 notes I get 4 EVEN PULSES   
>           Ta ki Ta ki 
> Ta ki Ta ki
>                                                     
>                         
>         Sing:  1  *   2  *   3  *   4  *
> 
>                                                     
>                         
>                                 >       >      >
> If I play a rhythm of 7 notes  I get what I call 3
> BROKEN PULSES      Ta ki 
> Ta ki Ta ki ta
>                                                     
>                         
>         Sing:                  1  *   2  *   3  *  *
> 
> where the last pulse has one more note in it causing
> a 'skipping' feeling.
> 
> 
> A really fast way of practising combinations of ODD
> time signature phrases 
> is to memorize all the pulses of the common ODD time
> signatures.
> 
> 3  =  1 Broken Pulse  =  1 * *
> 5  =  2 Broken Pulses =  1 * 2* *
> 7  =  3 Broken Pulses =  1 * 2 * 3 * *
> 9  =  4 Broken Pulses =  1 * 2 * 3 * 4 * *
> 11 = 5 Broken Pulses =  1 * 2 * 3 * 4 * 5 * *
> and so on........
> 
> A way to practise these phrases is by singing, (with
> 9 as an example)   1 * 
> 2 * 3 * 4 d d   (one   two   three   four dih dih)
>                                                     
>                         
>                                >    >    >     >
>                                                     
>                         
>                               TakiTakiTakiTakita
> 
> If you see what I mean,  this is a very fast way of
> memorizing odd time 
> groupings:   just add up some numbers that get you
> where you want to go
> (remember you don't have to start your rhythmic
> phrase on the 
> downbeat..............................start, say on
> the downbeat of 2 in a 
> measure of sixteenths.   You are now 12 notes away
> from the downbeat of 1. 
> Time for a 1 * 2 * 3 d d 1 * 2 d d    combination.
> 
> This concept was taught to me by the great drummer
> Steve Smith to give 
> credit where credit is due.
> Anecdotally,  I taught him how to play authentic
> traditional Reggae that 
> same weekend, but I think
> I got the much better end of the stick with this
> concept..........lol.   I 
> use it constantly in soloing.
> 
> 


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