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Hmmm, part of me thinks you might be right... perhaps the part that was yelling at his computer the other day when opening a midi file made DP4.6 crash each time? Perhaps. I think you might be on to something with the audio looping. I often put layers of handonic over my basic drum machine beats to mix it up. My recommendations there are to get something that does as many layers as you can afford. I use a Repeater now (4 track) but I'm looking at the looperlative (8 stereo tracks)... OK, I'm more than looking, I put half down as a deposit! I don't know much about the RC-50 as I ignore any looper that dosn't have feedback control. Good luck! Mark --- Rafko M <rafko_m@yahoo.com> wrote: > Mark,. > > Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I have used > PCs for a long time and have made my living > supporting them, but I was hoping that there would > be something outside of the computer paradigm. > > I was looking for a simpler solution and having, > perhaps, a single device instead of several MIDI > components (MIDI controllera MIDI interfaces, > soundcards, laptop, many cables,etc) as you would on > a computer-based system Ths in part for the sake of > mobility, but also because of the fact that > compuetr-based systems tend to become a point of > distraction for me where I spend more time > troubleshooting them or exploring their potential > than actually playing music. However I realize that > in terms of sophistication, it would be unrealistic > to expect to find anything like Ableton Live in the > hardware world, but I am willing to make that > compromse. > > This is why after reading all of these postings I > have been thinking of exploring the ideas of using > Handsonic 10 and instead of doing MIDI drum looping, > consider an idea of looping audio coming out of > Handsonic, using the same looper that would use for > my guitar/bass loops (possibly Boss RC-50 (or some > other looper, if there is a more suitable one?)) I > would be interested to find out if anyone else is > doing anything similar, and if so, what their setup > is like. Using a single hardware looper for looping > of live percussions/drums and guitar/bass (or other > instruments that are not prerecorded or > presequenced) but are played live and looped on the > fly. > > Rale > > mark sottilaro <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> wrote: > As a Handsonic 15 owner, I have to say that it is > indeed a great instrument. The first time you use > that D-Beam to shift the pitch of your drum your > audience will go "oooo" and deem you so technically > advanced that to them you will appear magical. > > In terms of easy to use drum machines, look at the > Korg etribes. They can be gotten cheap and have > decent sounds of their own (or buy the sampler type > and put in your own). Also, many scorn it, but BT > and > I like the Roland MC-307, out of production but > easily > had cheaply on ebay. > > And I know I'm going to throw a spanner into your > works, but... Laptop? Sure you'll need a laptop and > a > USB audio/midi interface, but the versatility you'll > get out of it is bar non. I resisted it for years > but > finally caved. I'm really glad I did though. I'm > using Digital Performer 4.6 on a Mac with Native > Instrument's Battery and Spectrasonics Stylus. It's > amazing. > > Mark > > --- Rafko M wrote: > > > After receiving a lot of good suggestions, I > wanted > > to explore and discuss Roland Handsonic 10 route. > I > > like Handsonic’s interface – it is most physical > and > > instrument-like of all compact drum triggers I > have > > seen, so when used in a performance, it would give > > an impression of an actual instrument being played > – > > not that there is anything wrong with drum machine > > style triggers, which were my initial > consideration, > > but I really like the physical aspect of > Handsonic. > > Under the light of the fact that Handsonic already > > has an excellent soundset and that it could be > used > > as a MIDI trigger, the only thing needed in > addition > > would be a good live sequencer with all of the > > characteristics earlier described, one that is > > easily controlled during performance and a one > that > > would let me shift in and out of recording mode > > without interrupting playback. Does the fact that > > this would be only a sequencer and not have to > have > > sampling/sound generating/triggering features > > simplifies my search? Are there > > any other devices (sequencers) suitable for this > > outside of those already recommended? > > > > I would still need to figure out what MIDI > > interface I would use to interconnect these MIDI > > devices and have the sequencer send MIDI clock > info > > to Boss RC-50 looper (the one I would use for my > > guitar/bass loops), while at the same time sending > > sequencing MIDI data to Handsonic.Would MIDI > > Solutions MIDI thru box (1 MIDI IN and two MIDI > > outs) that Rick had suggested work for this? > > > > As I said earlier, perhaps I am too conservative > > in trying to stay within MIDI with my drum > looping, > > so I would be opened for suggestions on how to use > > an audio looper, but not being a drummer, I think > > that the quantize feature would be essential for > me, > > as well as the ability to have my drum loops > synced > > to my guitar/bass loops. > > > > Again, thanks to all of you who are helping me in > > trying to figure out the best way to set this up. > > > > Rale > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! 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