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Matthias, Straight to the heart of the problem. Thank you! Regards from Boston, Chris -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Matthias Grob <matilists@atarde.com.br> > I have learned to be very carefull with analisis of problems that > involve "old school tube amp tone", because there seem to be some > para scientific influences... > > but what you say splits in two separate issues: > > 1) Any loop before a "old school tube amp" must screw it up, > independent on what loop unit you use, because the guitar is not > going alone into it, the loops change its characteristics. > as soon as you seriously distort, be it with tubes or any pedal, you > get the interferences between your actual guitar and the loop content > which usually sounds terrible. > The mentioned solutions with insert and mic are not perfect either. > The closest seems to me would be to feed the loop unit from a speaker > simulator (not a power soak, since you do use the real speaker) at > the output of the tube amp and then go from the looper into some flat > monitor. > I never tried it. Since 1974 I am perfectly happy with solid state :-) > > 2) the EDP is not quite as noise free as newer equipment is, which > appears more when you put a compressor after it. tubes do compress > somehow...