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Kris wrote: "I agree with you, philosophically here, but there are still glaring examples where not a lot of talent and artistic creativity in producing a piece of music, but is relying primarily on processing after the fact." Sure, Kris, and there are a lot of shitty acoustic jazz guitarists in the world. The gear doesn't make it shitty........................the lack of creativity and/or skill does. It's true of all music and in a way, it may not be necessary to have a philosophy about it. Just don't buy the person's album............................don't attend their next show. Or better yet, use the same gear and make a piece of music that you think is worthwhile. respectfully, Rick