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That's great advice for any effects programming. I found I used to do all my tweaking alone just listening to my guitar. Now, I start there, but more often than not I program a "B" version of my sound that's designed to fit in a mix of other instruments. What sounds thin by its self can often be exactly what you want when mixed with drums bass and synths. --- a k butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > > >Speaking of rock gigs, have any of you ever used a > Vortex in a rock > >band, live? I find that many oif the patches that > sound great in the > >living room just disappear amid the bass and drums. > > hi Tim > > I didn't have a problem in a rehearsal studio type > situation, > but if you mean playing with a "professional" pa > then I'd > think about making easy uncomplicated sounds that a > "sound guy" > might be able to live with. > > Generally the fine details of a patch are always > going be somewhat > lost when you blend your guitar with other sounds. > An echo at low > volume will tend to disappear completely. > In any case, what sounds good on solo guitar isn't > always going to > work in a band context. > > the supplied vortex presets are probably worth > avoiding > > Try going for simpler echoes, > turn up the echo volume, and turn down the no. of > repeats. > Use simpler values for echo divide ( like putting > them both = 2) > > ...and plenty of Vortex extreme modulation brought > in with the pedal :-) > > andy butler > www.andybutler.com mp3 and home of the Vortex > Database > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com