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Thanks, Tony. I'll try these out. I've been sorting through all my VST effects, and I have over 400 of them (most of which were free, and I spent about $700 on a handful of them). I just recently categorized them alphabetically, and I'm going through each of them to see whether I like them or not...and if so, load them in my VST host for future use. In the process, I discovered I like my Chainer VST host better than EnergyXT. It is very simple, and for some reason loading it up with VST effects, even though they are not active, doesn't bog down the system....EnergyXT has a problem with this. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony K" <bigtony@softhome.net> > Found this collection of VSTs today. Interesting looking bit crushing >and > mangling fx. with a sprinkling of Anime graphics thrown in for good > measure. ;) > > http://www.jackdark.net/darkwarefree.html > > > Enjoy, > > Tony >