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Logically it makes sense to dismiss something like Radial as a "Looper" in this context. If you let it in the list, you'd have a huge list! All samplers have a loop ability... are they "Loopers" in the sense that we are talking about them here? I've done really cool things with LiSa, but even though it allows you to capture audio and loop it, I still think it's more in the realm of sampler than looper. I can loop an audio file using Peak. Is it a looper? No. Mark --- 3nki <3nki@modaldub.net> wrote: > does a "looper" have to catch live > audio? i never thought so. perhaps a "live looper" or "real-time > looper"? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com