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having the view that looping is politically subversive as it is non- mainstream music, and at least for me associated with ideas such as improvisation, subversion, personal freedom and individual expression, i thought this series of articles might be of interest to some on the list. i understand that some people are put off by political and/or theoretical topics. would they limit this list to discussing multi- thousand dollar commercial products and their merits? to me music is political, so to be concerned with music is to be concerned with politics. besides, it's interesting ;) so, why not have a discussion with like-minded "musical subversives"? or just read the article. this list is for sharing things of "value" with others, and i found this series of articles quite valuable. excerpt: > Attali wrote that: "Listening to music is listening to all noise, > realising that its appropriation and control is a reflection of > power, that it is essentially political ... The theorists of > totalitarianism have all explained that it is necessary to ban > subversive noise because it betokens demands for cultural autonomy, > support for differences and marginality: a concern for maintaining > tonalism, the primacy of melody, a distrust of new languages, codes > or instruments, a refusal of the abnormal - these characteristics > are common to all regimes of that nature". from: "Industrial Prehistory: Anti-Music" this article: http://media.hyperreal.org/zines/est/articles/ prehist5.html full set of articles: http://media.hyperreal.org/zines/est/articles/ preindex.html -3nki