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Spending- I could spend between $200-300 on the monitors. I wouldn't even
mind spending more if it will be worth it sonically, but for now I imagine
I could come up with a decent set of monitors for that price. A 2.1 set up
has crossed my mind, but I was not sure if it would cause too much
isolation of low frequencies......
When I first got the Repeater, I tried placing it in the amps FX loop, but
that believe it or not is the worst sounding position of all the places I
tried in the chain. I also tried placing an old muti-fx unit on bypass
between the Repeater & the FX loops Return, again, to no avail.
For now I am going to rule out using the amp in any way & concentrate on a
mixer/monitor set up. I mentioned in my last message that I have 2 mixers
available for use, a tiny Nady & a larger Behringer- any suggestions on
ways to route the Repeater signal through one of those mixers & too
monitors?
I will look into the Teufel's, thank you for the suggestion & the help!
"Rainer Thelonius Balthasar To:
Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Straschill" cc:
<rs@moinlabs.de> Subject: AW: 2 Questions
04/03/2006 02:03 PM
Please respond to
Loopers-Delight
again, question one:
how much are you willing to spend? There's a wide range of options all the
way in between multimedia speakers for €10 per pair up to active studio
mains for more than you most probably can afford ;). If your price range
is
below €30, you probably won't get anything better (and probably only
worse)
than your current speakers. For the price range 30-100, I'd say you might
get something which works ok, but I couldn't recommend anything specific.
The €100-€200 range has some decent choices from the
computer/multimedia
world, if you can live with a 2.1 (2 sattelites+subwoofer) setup - I'd
recommend Lautsprecher Teufel (www.teufel.de). €200-300, you could give
Behringer's active "Truth" monitors a listen.
question two:
Mark is of course right, not only will you be lacking proper impedance,
but
also proper level. So as he suggested, you'd need an instrument
preamp/line
driver kind of thing. Anything with a high impedance on the input and a
low
impedance on the output and some gain >1. Like your GT-6B. And also the
idea to put the repeater in the amp's effects loop (if available) would
work.
Rainer
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: matthew.quinn@sunlife.com [mailto:matthew.quinn@sunlife.com]
> Gesendet: Montag, 3. April 2006 19:28
> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Betreff: Re: 2 Questions
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> Thanks for the info.........
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> Ideally, while my home stereo does work- my music room is
> seperate from the living room, where the stereo is house, so
> I'm looking for a seperate system. I might buy a cheap home
> stereo if that is the best option, but I have got to believe
> there is a better amplification system for the Repeater than
> a home stereo. That wil remain an aoption though, for sure.
> I've often though about trying the digital output on the
> Repeater, but have never done
> it- maybe I will give it a whirl tonight.
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> As far as the GT6-B, for now, I need to have it stay on the
> FX loops because as you suspected, I use it a lot to affect
> the recorded loops- once I have a MoFx this will probably
> change, but for now I need it where it is.
> But that brings me to another question- currently, I AM
> already running the main instrument (regardless of whether it
> is the synth or my bass) into the back panel input on the
> Repeater, should I be running it into the instrument input?
> Any suggestions on a cheap DI box that will work? And if I
> *do* put a DI box between the instrument & Repeater, will I
> need to turn it off when playing synth instead of bass?
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> "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar To:
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> <rs@moinlabs.de> Subject: 2
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> 04/03/2006 01:09 PM
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> Matthew,
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> regarding question #1:
> a) if your noise problem is greatly reduced when using the
> repeater with your computer speakers in comparison to your
> guitar amp, I'd suggest that the repeater/guitar amp
> combination is the problem, not the repeater per se.
> The noise mod might help you to get rid of some of that noise
> (i.e. the noise you hear when using the computer speakers),
> but not of everything.
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> your home listening pleasure, I don't see any reason why
> working with your stereo receiver would hurt. If the receiver
> has an S/PDIF input, you might even connect your Repeater to
> that (and avoid noise from its analogue output stages).
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> b) would it be possible (from the way your playing/sound
> editing works) to put the GT6-B before the Repeater, or would
> you be able to adapt to using it this way? There would be two
> advantages: first, you wouldn't have to use the Repeater's
> instrument input, which is one of its biggest noise sources.
> Plus, any condition of your signal affecting the dynamics (for bass
> players:
> typically compression) would happen before the repeater, so
> the compressor would not "pull up" the repeater's input noise
> at it is currently.
> If you can't use the GT6-B before the Repeater (e.g. because
> you use it to effect the recorded loops all the time), then
> using a small DI to connect your bass to the rear input of
> the Repeater will help a little.
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> Rainer
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> > #1- I am mainly a Repeater user. I am currently running a
> Roland RS-5
> > or my bass into the Repeater, then on the FX loop of the
> Repeater is a
> > Boss GT6-B. Now, with this set up I can't use my amp (GK
> Backline 250
> > into an Ampeg 2x10) without horrible noise issues. I know at least
> > some of this is due to the Repeater's inherent noise
> problem, which I
> > will resolve in due time with the mod offered by AudioPros. In the
> > meantime, though, I have the output of the Repeater hooked
> to a small
> > set of computer speakers, which seem to output the loops
> without the
> > same amount of background noise- but of course, being computer
> > speakers, they don't reproduce bass or any kind of drum
> very well. So
> > essentially, I am just looking for *the best way to monitor my
> > Repeater's output at home in my music room*. I am open to
> all options
> > people think might
> > work- would a small PA do the trick? a power amp & set of
> monitors? A
> > home stereo receiver & speakers ( I hooked up the Repeater
> tomy stereo
> > & it sounded great)? Any help would be greatly appreciated,
> I'm going
> > deaf from working on headphones constantly. : )
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