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At 17:27 03/04/06, you wrote: >music >which most people don't even consider music could be seen as the most >radical as it is defying the dominant value-system, whose ultimate >purpose is of course control. a much broader system of control than >"left wing" or "communist" labels imply. Not these days surely? The educational/academic establishments now promote music which "most people don't consider music". ...and of course those establishments are the tool of government, and of course they are a big part of the dominant value system. andy b