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>> Henry Heine <henry@bagend.com> wrote: >> I've had the Marantz PMD660 since July 2005, and it works ok, BUT: >> The on board mics sound good, but it's very sensitive and there is no pad and no limiter. Unuseable for live music recording, at least the kind of SPLs that I play. >> The xlr mic inputs are nice, but no pads and no limiter. arrgghhhh. See above. Just received mine, and haven't tried recording a rehearsal yet. When you turn off the automatic level control there is indeed a -20 db pad setting for the external mic and the volume control for the built in mics seems to attenuate pretty well. Could there be different firmware versions on our two units? I may have a better perspective later in the week... Dan Ash White Plains, NY