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re: Scary Situations



<<  people with little or no experience or little or no talent  >>

Sounds like most rappers to me. :)


--
Paul Richards

---- "loop.pool" <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote: 
> Mark Sottilaro wrote about his scary situation:
> 
> "What else can you do?  WHEN YOUR GUEST
> VOCALIST WON'T LEAVE! "
> 
> Man, oh man, have I ever been there before, Mark.
> 
> 
> At one point I got a really lucrative gig ($1000)  at one of the 10,000 
> person Massives
> that they used to hold in Oakland (and why did those things stop?)
> 
> I was asked to fill two solid hours in the chill room doing my live 
>looping 
> found sound schtick.
> 
> It was fabulous, really.   It was a large audience that continually 
>turned 
> over and people were really digging
> that my stuff was so different from what they normally would hear at a 
>Rave.
> 
> That was until I did a kind of trip hoppy piece and use beatboxing for 
>the 
> groove.
> 
> A young man walked up to me in the middleof the song as I was juggling 
>the 
> loops (warning sign already)
>  and said.   "I dig your beatboxing",   I"m a rapper,  could I do a 
>piece 
> with you?
> I thought,  well,  that's not quite what I intended for the vibe, but I 
> didn't want to appear curmugeonly
> so I said okay to his request..
> 
> Well, he gets on mic and I lay down a beatbox for him to rap over and 
> suddenly and immediately
> there are ten guys in line behind him waiting for their turn on the mic.
> 
> I mean this all happened within one minute of me handing him the mic and 
> because my hands were literally full
> with playing bass, keys and beatboxign and keeping it all together so 
>that 
> it sounded like a professional
> production  I couldn't control it at all.
> 
> At one point I 'ended' a piece and went over to the line of young men 
>and 
> said,  "Thanks a lot, I need to get back to the rest of the show now," 
> and everybody turned on me angrily and one guy said,  "Oh man,  he got 
>his 
> turn,  I want my turn" to a chorus
> of hostile 'yeahs' from the peanut galler.
> 
> It was really pretty ugly quickly and I just gave up and beatboxed until 
> the festival leaders aske me to quit playing (half an hour earlier than 
>I 
> was supposed to).     The whole vibe was not 'chill' at all and I was 
>never 
> asked back (after having played two or three of them very successfully.
> 
> Man, oh man, did that make an impression.
> 
> I, unfortunately,  have experienced similar situations a couple of times 
> since then enough to have developed the prejudice that freestyled 
>rappers 
> are the most aggressive and insensitive musicians that I've ever played 
> with.   It's a shame because i like the form, and I know a few extremely 
> good freestylers but even they do not seem to know when to do their 
>thing 
> and when to give it a rest.   For some reason damned reason,  even 
>people 
> with little or no experience or little or no talent will aggressively 
>try to 
> get onstage with you.    Can you imagine a trumpet player or violinist 
>with 
> the same amount of experience going up to an accomplished musician and 
> aggressively asking to sit in for the DURATION of a performance.
> 
> ARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!
> 
> I regretfully have a 'no rapper' policy for my live improv shows.   It's 
> just not worth the risk.
> I also have discoverd, too, that anyone who is a sensitive and 
>accomplished 
> musician will seek you out ahead of your show
> and ask to sit in.     I've pretty much decided that it has to be David 
>Torn 
> or David Sylian or Jah Wobble who asks me in the middle of playing for 
>me to 
> say 'yes'   to them.     If someone is insensitive enough and pushy 
>enough 
> to come up right in the middle of a show it's an automatic 'no' reply 
>from 
> me now....................and I love to improvisize with people, but you 
> just gotta have your standards. 
>