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Someone on this thread mentioned how they get audience members coming up to talk to them while doing looping/ambient gigs, while it doesn't happen at band gigs. Whenever our DJ sets up at the front of the stage, he gets people coming up and asking him questions, making requests, etc, even though he's playing. They'll even set their drinks on the tables that hold his decks. Unbelievable. On a similar note, he was asked to DJ at a coffeshop in Portland the day after our last gig there. We all went, and our horn players were planning to sit in for a tune or two. We were informed by the management that their ASCAP/BMI agreements didn't allow the playing of musical instruments at the shop. But turntables are OK. That was the final proof that we needed to show that turntables are not instruments! I mean, if ASCAP says so... Actually, I don't believe this in the least, I pretty much believe that anything anyone uses to create cool sounds can be considered a musical instrument, and any person making those sounds a musician. And I think our DJ is a pretty musical guy. But this incident just gave us an excuse to give him an endless raft of sh*t, always a good thing in any band. BTW, we have a gig tonight opening for one of my favorite musicians on the planet, Wayne Horvitz. Seeing him in 1989 in his trio with Bobby Previte and Butch Morris was one of those life-changing, career-changing musical moments. We're opening for his group Sweeter than the Day, his piano-based quartet. Also, it's a chance for us to play in a concert hall, listener-friendly setting. I'm seriously intimidated, in the best possible way, by this gig.