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I just have one question? When's the price of the Looperlative going to drop to, say, $599.99? Hopefuly, after the folks with deep pockets buy them. -- Paul Richards ---- jayrope <jrploopers@kliklak.net> wrote: > > I am afraid I didn¹t read further before, sorry for dissing you here >mark. > > > > I do undertand your reasons now. > > > > still I believe, that the looperlative will be a very cool machine >in the > > end and the more imprtant questions is, if there¹s any way of >finding bob > > co-developpers to help him and expand the idea of this great thing > > > > so > > jayrope - berlin > > > > From: mark sottilaro <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> > > Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 10:44:38 -0700 (PDT) > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: LP1 Rant warning! (was Re: Looperlative LP1 testers) > > > > Hey, > > > > I'm thinking of staying with my Repeater and ditching > > the Looperlative. Bob's offered to take it back but I > > imagine he'll just sell it for his $1500 price. I'm > > not looking to make money on this, but I'd like to > > retreive my full purchase amount. $1320 gets it > > shipped to your door if you're in the USA. > > > > M > > > > --- mark t <aleatoric12@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > If you want to sell your LP1 i'll take it! > >> > > >> > On 5/2/06, mark sottilaro > >> > <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>> > > --- Claude Voit <c.voit@vtx.ch> wrote: > >>> > > > >>>> > > > having followed the LP1 forum for a while, I'm a > >>>> > > > little bothered with the > >>>> > > > "throw in your ideas, boys" way of develloping a > >>>> > > > software. > >>> > > > >>> > > Boy howdy, Claude!! At first I thought, "what a > >> > great > >>> > > idea, go to the people!" and then reality set in. > >>> > > People are self absorbed jerks! I'm a self > >> > absorbed > >>> > > jerk! I'm shocked that Bob's not gone crazy by > >> > this > >>> > > point. I can't wait for the "let's change the > >> > logo > >>> > > thread!" ;) > >>> > > > >>> > > I can't help but feel that in some ways, maybe due > >> > to > >>> > > his design by customer input, that I bought a beta > >>> > > product. The manual is poor (many features are > >> > barely > >>> > > mentioned, let alone explained, if it wasn't for > >> > Steve > >>> > > Lawson on the forum I probably would have returned > >> > the > >>> > > LP-1), it's got outputs that aren't implemented in > >> > any > >>> > > way and did ship with a fair amount of bugs. (many > >>> > > have already been found and fixed) Was a night of > >> > my > >>> > > life wasted because v 1.1 refered to midi channels > >> > as > >>> > > 0-15? Yes it was. Another gone because the midi > >>> > > clock sync didn't work? Yeah, that too. Another > >> > gone > >>> > > because stopped tracks don't restart synced to the > >>> > > clock... > >>> > > > >>> > > Also, because of it's very open yet unfinished > >> > form > >>> > > I'm one of those frustrated owners. It's a tweak > >> > away > >>> > > from being my dream looper. (there's curently no > >> > way > >>> > > to use the midi tracks as separate loops when > >> > synced > >>> > > to a midi clock and have them operate like the EDP > >> > or > >>> > > the Repeater does, toggling betwen them) Judging > >> > from > >>> > > what I read on the forum you could operate it that > >>> > > way. > >>> > > > >>> > > If this was a product from a company like Roland > >> > or > >>> > > Digitech, it would have been returned. Mostly > >> > when > >>> > > those companies release a product it is what it > >> > is. > >>> > > I'd have said, "Oh, this product does't operate > >> > like I > >>> > > want it to. Bye bye." But now I have a product > >> > that > >>> > > *may* change into what I want. This is kind of > >> > odd, > >>> > > as rather than digging into if for what it is (a > >> > very > >>> > > cool multi track looper), I can't help but think > >> > of > >>> > > what it isn't and might be. LOOP TEASE! > >>> > > > >>> > > Will my tweak come? I don't know. I've put in > >>> > > several requests but never got a "oh that's slated > >> > in > >>> > > the next release" or "no, that's not doable at > >> > this > >>> > > time" reply. The reply was "When it comes to > >> > multiple > >>> > > tracks, especially when combined with MIDI sync, > >> > we > >>> > > will need to spend more time defining how you want > >> > the > >>> > > software to work. The software is still young and > >> > I'd > >>> > > be happy to make changes to make operate in a > >> > useable > >>> > > fashion." How much time? Do I be patient? I > >> > don't > >>> > > develop hardware/software loopers so I have no > >> > idea > >>> > > what it takes in terms of time to implement > >> > features. > >>> > > Maybe my request isn't worth Bob's time as I'm one > >> > of > >>> > > few that even care about this. > >>> > > > >>> > > As it stands now it's mostly useless to me *but I > >>> > > couldn't know that based on prerelease > >> > information* > >>> > > It's not even in my signal chain. I know I'm > >> > ranting > >>> > > (I'm a good ranter, eh?) but $1200 left my bank > >> > acount > >>> > > on something that's sitting on a shelf. Do I > >> > wait? > >>> > > How long? Bob has been amazing and patient, but > >> > part > >>> > > of me wishs that a bit more time was spent in > >> > initial > >>> > > conception before it was released. If I knew that > >>> > > this *is* the way the LP-1 is going to be for a > >> > long > >>> > > time, I would have passed. > >>> > > > >>> > > I'm not saying the LP-1 isn't GREAT. It is a > >> > great > >>> > > looper. In some ways it's the best. If you're > >> > not a > >>> > > midi clock looper, this may indeed be your box. > >> > If > >>> > > you don't care about cuing a new loop to start > >>> > > recording at the end of the current loop AND then > >>> > > going back and finding the first loop still > >> > perfectly > >>> > > synced to your drum machine, this may be your > >> > looper. > >>> > > If you want 8 stereo channels of midi synced (or > >> > not) > >>> > > loops that don't all have to be the same length, > >> > this > >>> > > may be your looper. > >>> > > > >>> > > Of course Bob is on this list so he's probably > >> > going > >>> > > to read this. Hi Bob! Bob, I like you. I like > >> > the > >>> > > Looperlative. I could not have done anything like > >>> > > this at all. I have much respect for your hard > >> > work > >>> > > and effort. Your ability to implement all our > >> > crazy > >>> > > feature requests in a short time has been amazing. > >>> > > I'd have told me to fuck off a long time ago. In > >> > a > >>> > > sense I wish you would. Then I could say, "is the > >>> > > LP-1 worth owning in it's current form?" and be > >> > done > >>> > > with it. Like it is it's an itch in my brain that > >> > I > >>> > > just can't scratch. > >>> > > > >>> > > Mark > > >