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With all due respect, it was a joke. ----- Original Message ----- From: "loop.pool" <looppool@cruzio.com> To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 8:17 PM Subject: Looperlative pricing > Paul Richards wrote: > "The solution, then, is to turn the technology over to, uh, ZOOM for >maybe > a cool million bucks, sell them for $599.99 then, mass produce them so >we > can get the looper elites to shut the hell up. > > > Dear Paul, with all due respect, you seem to be uninformed about the > economics of the looping world. > > Zoom would never in a million years, by a product like the Looperlative > for a million bucks. They would lose there asses > in such a deal because not that many people even buy looping devices. > > At one point I made impassioned pleas to the people at Line 6 to put >some > changes into their cheap floor model , the DL-4. > They said, "We sorry to tell you this, but we sell very few units of >the > DL-4 to people who are specifically using it for looping. > Our market is for guitarists who use the delay modelling and the looping > is thrown in as an added bonus. We don't sell enough > to loopers to make it worthwhile adding, say MIDI syncing capabilities." > > It was an eye opener to me. Matthias Grob (inventor of the echoplex) > and his partner Kim Flint can tell you about the lack > of huge profit in selling a highly sophisticated looper. Bob Amstadt >can > tell you the same thing. He's risked a lot of his family's finances > in an attempt to make this product and is the most non-elitist guy I >could > ever introduce you to. > > ****************** > > You know something, if you take any serious >musician................after > a while, they realize they want to buy a better axe to go along > with all their hard work getting better on an instrument. > > If you are serious about electric guitars, you are going to have spend > over a thousand dollars, by and large, to get a really good instrument. > Shit, if you are cellist or an acoustic bassist we are talking $5,000 to > $10,000 for a really good instrument. > > The looperlative is now, by far and away, the highest fidelity hardware > based live looper on the planet right now. > If you are serious about looping in your artistry, then you have to at > least consider it as an option in what you invest in. > > Anyone can buy one at list price for a year of payments of >$120-125/month. > > Try to buy the best drumset in the world for that > price....................they'll laugh you out of the music store. > The same goes for an excellent acoustic guitar or electric. > > The fact of the matter is that there are inexpensive instruments (line 6 > DL-4, boss RC-20) and there are more sophisticated > and more expensive instruments (the Echoplex and the Looperlative). You > can buy software loopers that are fantastic > for much cheaper, but you have to have a $1500 laptop computer to run >them > on. > This is just life. > > To derisively tell the so called looper elites to shut the hell up is >not > only highly disrespectful but it also shows a woeful lack of knowledge >on > your part. > > Please consider your remarks before you blast people on this list. This > community is heavily populated by those same people.........some of whom > happen to be world class artists without an elitist bone in their bodies. > > And please get your facts straight. > > signed, > > a person who makes very little money, living off his artistry and also > plays the cheapest and most expensive loopers on the market, > > Rick Walker