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it also should be noted that the motor from a vibrator, or power drill can potentially de-gauss and weaken the magnets of a pickup, probably not as critical with a vibrator as those motors tend to be weaker than high speed drills. For some reason the ebow doesn't harm pickups in the same way. Now if one were to use a vibrator, wear a rubber mask with a zipper mouth, and attach alligator clips to ones nipples, it wouldn't necessarily hurt you pickups, but it might hurt your reputation, or improve it, depending on the company you keep. ;-) Bill -----Original Message----- From: Kim Flint [mailto:kflint@loopers-delight.com] Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 2:45 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: E-bows vs Vibrators At 11:28 AM 5/12/2006, johnsrude@peak.org wrote: >So... > >Thinking of E-bows. > >Thinking of Reeves Gabrels. > >Thinking of Rick Walker. (Hi Rick! Great set at BEMF!) > >Ebows are expensive. Vibrators are cheap. Can you get the same effect with >a...ah...NECK massager that you can with an E-bow? Not the same effect. What you get is the electro-magnetic fields of the electric motor in the vibrator interacting with magnetic pickup of the guitar. In other words, you hear the sound of the motor. It doesn't vibrate the string like an ebow. The pitch will be the speed of the motor. Therefore, you will likely find a variable speed vibrator is a good option. I don't know if the size matters. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com