Re: Looping with Backing Tracks???

[daniel stevenson <stillllscary@yahoo.com>]

--- daniel stevenson <stillllscary@yahoo.com> wrote:

>    has anybody seen how Keller Williams uses his
> mixer
> and a looper to bring in bass lines,beat
> boxin,multiple guitar loops, his vocals,and his lil
> triangle all into the mix,all in real time?i dont
> like
> the ideal of having anything pre recorded for using
> as
> backing trax-its just not cool.of course some of the
> audience may think your playing over recordings or
> pre
> sequenced patches regardless of how you approach
> things.
>    about feeling stale with the path your music is
> taking,i like the mind altering vision quest where
> you
> find insight into your psyche...like the movie
> altered
> states without the isolation tank.i find these quest
> very help-full as long as i dont abuse the sacred
> ritual by looking for insight to often.
>                  to the future,
>                        scary visionary.
>     
> 
> --- Sean Mormelo <sean@seanmormelo.com> wrote:
> 
> > So Mark, you have your drums and backing tracks in
> > DP while the program
> > controls your hardware looper. So what you are
> > saying if i'm getting this
> > correctly is that you create all the music exept
> > your drums by live looping
> > each section of the song which you lay out ahead
> of
> > time and toggle between?
> > I'm assuming your drums are MIDI but I guess this
> > would work if you were
> > toggle between loop clips as well. I would want to
> > do it manually instead
> > because I want the option of skipping to different
> > sections and doing weird
> > loop stuff on the fly..In other words, I don't
> want
> > to have a strict
> > arrangement for every song. Hmm..sounds doable..
> > 
> > 
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> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "mark sottilaro"
> <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com>
> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 10:41 AM
> > Subject: Re: Looping with Backing Tracks???
> > 
> > 
> > > I've experimented a bit with this and here's
> what
> > I
> > > found works nicely.
> > >
> > > Get a software sequencer.  Almost any will do
> > probably
> > > but I use Digital Performer 4.6.  Why?  I don't
> > know.
> > > Works though and runs off a laptop easily.  For
> > drums
> > > I use a combonation of BATTERY2 and Stylus RMX. 
> > Both
> > > are pretty processor friendly if you don't add a
> > lot
> > > of effects.
> > >
> > > Then I make a track that's a command track for
> my
> > > Repeater.  Tells it when to go into record, when
> > to
> > > stop the record, etc.  I really like having this
> > > totally automated so I can just play and not
> have
> > to
> > > worry about pedals.  Using this method I can
> > create
> > > verse/chorus/bridge structures very easily and
> > toggle
> > > between them.  Works really well if you're doing
> a
> > > structured song as long as you do a bit of
> > planning.
> > >
> > > Of course, you could do the same thing with an
> EDP
> > as
> > > well or any hardware looper that'll sync to a
> midi
> > > clock and do multiple loops.  Repeater's just my
> > tool
> > > of choice at the moment.  Could possibily do it
> in
> > > software too, but I haven't figured that out
> quite
> > > yet.  Seems promising.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Sean Mormelo <sean@seanmormelo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Here's my Dilema...I'm getting pretty stale
> > playing
> > > > solo acoustic and I have my feelers out for
> > > > bandmembers. I'm starting to do the looping
> > thing I
> > > > like the idea of the spontineity of it and the
> > fact
> > > > that the song will take on a unique life every
> > time
> > > > I play it...I just wish there was a way to
> > integrate
> > > > the looping in with some backing drums and
> bass
> > as
> > > > well but I can' t think of how to make it work
> > with
> > > > the looping other then cutting each part of
> and
> > > > making loops out of them for every song, then
> > > > triggering those specific parts...like section
> > A, B,
> > > > Chorus, Bridge, etc etc...Lay it out in
> Ableton
> > Live
> > > > with each section of the song in your set
> having
> > > > their own unique loops. Then you'd have to hit
> a
> > > > MIDI Pedal telling Ableton to loop the section
> > > > you're on While The MIDI Also arms your EDP or
> > My
> > > > RC-50 Looper and starts it recording....Or you
> > tell
> > > > LIVE you want a section to loop at the
> beginning
> > of
> > > > it so as to give you time to get ready to
> > trigger
> > > > your looper manually....Or, just do it all
> > within
> > > > Abelton Live like KID Beyond and lots of folks
> > are
> > > > doing it......It's a lot to ponder for certain
> > but I
> > > > would love to do this for certain shows...If
> > anyone
> > > > is doing anything similar, I'd love to know
> your
> > > > method. I think I need some advice on how to
> go
> > > > about setting this up...Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Sean Mormelo
> > > > www.seanmormelo.com
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> > > > www.CDbaby.com/seanmormelo
> > >
> > >
> > >
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