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I remeber doing the track muting dance as well and loosing track as to what was muted and what wasnt with the repeater,actually that is a killer feature which updates i was waiting for, but as i did more song gigs i simply started using the undo/redo feature to bring part A and B and the other parts (if any) i would just loop in real time,its amazing what u can do with such a simple feature!for me too much technic detaches me from the feeling and emotion of music also having one single looper in my signal has made my life a lot easier! Luis --- mark sottilaro <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> wrote: > Wow, that seems like a complex setup! What exactly > are you trying to make it do? I thought this thread > was talking about doing simple "verse/chorus" type > loop switching. > > --- Zoe Keating <cello@zoekeating.com> wrote: > > > For a while I had some patches programmed to do > > that. For example, > > Mute some/all tracks on RPTR1 and meanwhile start > > recording on RPTR2. > > > > But in the heat of performance, it was too hard to > > keep tabs which > > tracks are muted or unmuted. Because...and this is > > something I've > > explained at great length to Elextrix...the > Repeater > > gives you no > > visual feedback whatsoever as to what tracks are > > muted! In some > > songs, I often do things exactly the same, but I > > need to stay > > flexible in case accidents happen (and some of my > > favorite songs I > > deliberately leave open to the element of chance). > > > > Also, at the end of a song I often get absorbed in > > what I'm > > performing (the ends of songs are always different > > and I'm > > concentrating on silly little things like musical > > phrase...;-)...). I > > quickly forget what is muted and what is not. > > Meanwhile, I'll start > > the next piece, and the old loop will be erased, > but > > the mute > > settings are still from the previous song! The > only > > way to "reset" is > > to turn the power off. Often I'll turn the power > off > > between songs > > for this sole purpose, because I just can't > remember > > what I muted or > > unmuted. Add to this the fact that sometimes a > foot > > press might not > > have been "forceful" enough, and maybe I didn't > > unmute? No way to > > know... > > > > Try it, you'll soon see how complicated it can > > become if you have > > songs where you already mute and unmute tracks on > a > > regular basis. > > > > Then we get into the issue of space within each > > patch on the > > FCB1010.... The FCB1010 allows you to send 2 CC > > messages and 5 PC > > messages per patch. I have one CC spot and 2 PC > > spots controlling > > RPTR1 and the same for RPTR2. So really I'm > limited > > to one 1 CC and 2 > > PCs message per Repeater per patch (the 5th slot > > controls the drum > > machine). Combo muting (ie 1&2 and 3&4) is > > accessible only via CC, so > > the other 2 tracks have to be muted with 2 > separate > > PC messages. > > That's 2 CCs + 4PCs to mute/unmute all the tracks > on > > the two > > Repeaters. And then no room left for anything. > It's > > easier when there > > are only a couple tracks running on each. But I > eat > > up tracks pretty > > fast...! > > > > Instead, I started various combos of > simultaneously > > stopping RPTR1 > > and starting RPTR2. But I'm midi synced and the > > Repeater "ramps up" > > to the tempo when starting from a full stop. > > > > Sigh. > > > > So now I've resorted to this: combination of > > stopping RPTR1 and a > > volume pedal on RPTR2. I can start a Repeater with > > the volume down so > > it has time to ramp up to the clock, then I'll > bring > > up the volume at > > the right moment. I've had a hard time operating 2 > > volume pedals and > > the FCB1010, so I've arranged the songs to make > use > > of just one > > Repeater coming in and out with my feet. And the > > other Repeater I'll > > start it before with my feet, let it ramp up, and > > turn volume knob up > > on the mixer in a "breath" when I 'm not playing > the > > cello... > > > > > > On Jun 10, 2006, at 1:36 PM, mark sottilaro wrote: > > > > > I've never tried it, but I imagine that with the > > > fcb1010 you could also do mute track shananagans > > to > > > achieve the same effect. > > > > > > --- Zoe Keating <cello@zoekeating.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com