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On 12 jun 2006, at 16.10, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi Per > >>> [on Ableton:] How am I going to switch from 4/4 to 7/8? >> Manually, by using the mouse. Unfortunately. > Yeah, just figured that out. I'm not able to set any keyboard or > midi shortcuts for global meter. :-( (maybe some Mac Automation > workaround?) I don't think so. Since there is no computer keys for changing the meter I don't think it can be done with the help of MIDI Stroke http://www.charlie-roberts.com/ > I'm still experimenting with Ableton Live & Odd meters. > Some success: > - You can set a tempo for each scene. This way, you can duplicate a > scene, assign different tempo to it and every time you switch scene > global tempo will adjust. (Nice stuff, alas, no key/midi mapping > possible) Oh, you can assign different key/MIDI to every scene! Simply assign it to the corresponding cell on the master track column at the right. > - I have created a file with default scenes where each scene has a > midi clip with 4/8, 3/8, 5/8, 7/8 or 11/8 meter. This sounds much > better than the obnoxious metronome and can be good starting point > for an odd meter loop. (i.e. close/open hihat 7/8: one-two,one- > two,one-two-three). Yes, that was the way I handled odd meters when looping with the hardware combo EDP/Repeater. Simply dividing the loops/bars/cycles with anything that goes with the meter. Like, if you want to play and loop in 5/4 you can still use Ableton set to 4/4 but you can not quantize to one bar or a half note etc. You may quantize to 1/8 and then make the loops ten eights long. Like I was using the divisor "8ths per cycle = 10" on the EDP to play in 5/4. > > - When I launch a scene, all other tracks playback and the mounted > track starts recording - sweet! (you need to select global > preference "record on launch ON" to be able to do this, though) Yes, that's nifty. Ableton is a good looper if you like to create stable loops that stay the same over time. Personally I like it better to loop with maybe only one to three loops going at the same time and then instantly changing the loops by either overdubbiing layers or punching in/out slices (or transposing pitch). Those are two general concepts of looping that differ a lot in praxis. > So, I'll wait for my RC-50 and give it a chance. Still, Ableton is > very tempting. Especially combining loops with the effect section > is very attractive. Ideed! Ableton is an fx box on stereoids!!! ;-) > Now I need to experiment with effects. If the Ableton setup works, > I could get a footcontroller. Don't forget to check out Abletons Ping-Pong delay plug-in! It has a Freeze Loop function that you can assign to any foot pedal and also a feedback knob that you can assign to a MIDI pedal. So you can actually run plenty of tracks with one Ping-Pong delay each and use it as a "rack of stereo loopers". Like a rudimentary Mobius but with loads of cool effects thrown in ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast)