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At 7:26 PM +0200 6/22/06, Torstein H. Rem wrote: >I`m quite convinced no pedal will do the job. Maybe if you go midi >guitar you might >find something, don`t know about the Roland VG88 either. There's at least one guy over on the VG list who's using one of the Godin fretless nylon-string Multiacs ( http://www.godinguitars.com/godinmultnylonfretlessp.htm ) with one of the Roland VG units. He just raves about its sound and response. I'm betting you could probably get a pretty passable Oud sound from using a fretless with either a VG-8 or a VG-88, with the added bonus that the VG series -- especially the VG-8 -- has really extensive re-tuning abilitlies. So, you could go from standard guitar tuning to Oud tuning (or even switch between different Oud tunings -- Arabian DGADGC to Iraqi FADGCF, for instance, without breaking a string) at merely the press of a footswitch. For my latest Frankenproject, in fact, I've been planning on taking the course Bill originally suggested and having the frets pulled on my old Vox 12-string, then tuning it for 11-string Arabian and having a GK-3 retrofitted. I'm looking at keeping it as a steel string, though (I'm currently trying to match up the proper string gauges to that tuning since I want to avoid using any wound strings, with the possible exception of the "bam" which might end up as a flatwound). However, I'm not really trying to perfect an Oud sound, despite what it may seem. I just think the Arabian tuning would work well on such an instrument, and I'm really looking forward to seeing what it will do with the VG. --m. -- _______ "Now Simulcast on Crazy People's Fillings"