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Don't worry Mark, I won't sell both of my VF1's! :) They are amazing little boxes. Bill, what's wrong with the JC120? I can't tell whether you were making a fecicios comment about them or not. Forgive me if you weren't. Some amazing jazz players, like Pat Martino and Mike Stearn, have used those amps. Frankly, there really isn't such a thing as a "jazz amp." Jazzers of all calibers use what fits their taste...I've seen it all, from solid state Polytones, Rolands, and Gibsons, to tube Fenders, Boogies, and Music Man. Some guitarists, like McLaughlin, have even bi-passed amps altogether at times, plugging directly into processors and then directly into the board. The breadth of taste is pretty amazing. ...I do wish I had my old Polytone Teeny Brute back...I was such an idiot for selling that years ago. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Walker" <billwalker@baymoon.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 5:00 PM Subject: RE: FOR SALE: Mesa Boogie Mark I Combo Amp > Well Mark I'd be curious as to how you did the JC120 thingy on the >tonelab > (and why???? in gods name) and Actually like most of the stomp box > effects > on the tonelab allot except, the overdrive and distortion models on the > front end; a klon clone, even more exaggerated mid range honk than the > original, a tube screamer model , that just doesn't rattle my cage, and a > rat model, zzzzzzzz, among others, though the octavia octave, and ring > modulator effects are quite nice. My solution was, until a week ago, to > pirate my fulltone fulldrive from my gig rig pedal board, and stick it in > the tonelabs effects loop (which is at the front of the chain). Well last > week I got my new twin tube pedal from Seymour Duncan, and I am just dumb > struck at how good this thing sounds driving the front end of the >tonelab. > Since it uses two subminiature tubes running at high plate voltage, it > adds > tremendous dynamics and dimension not to mention two channels of anything > from clean boost with a hint of extra fatness, to very saturated, yet > smooth > and singing overdrive, all with great touch sensitivity. I just >submitted > a > review to Harmony Central, in which I shamelessly gushed about how good >it > sounds. Since I like many of the delay and modulation presets on the tone > lab, and I'm not a big flange or chorus guy, I was just searching for a > more natural sounding overdrive to compliment the tweed, black face, >early > marshall, and vox models I tend to use, and boy does this puppy fit the > bill. > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: mark sottilaro [mailto:zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 10:11 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: RE: FOR SALE: Mesa Boogie Mark I Combo Amp > > > --- William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote: > >> Mark has a point, > > I thought you couldn't notice it with my hair style! > > >> Do take >> note that the vox people did not see fit to model a >> transistor amp, not jazz >> chorus model ala line 6. So if that is your mind set >> maybe the vox ain't for >> you. > > Wait! There's MORE! I did find a way to get a good > JC120 sound out of the Tonelab! I forget how now... > I'll check tonight and let you know. I know the key > was leaving out either the amp modeling stage or cab > modeling stage. Also, I found I got better results > when I use the VF-1's stereo chorus (which I know Kris > has a couple of) > > I have to say that as much as I like some of the > stompbox models of the Tonelab, when I'm in the studio > I ditch them in favor of the VF-1's which I feel are > really great (and MIDI syncable which the tonelab > sadly isn't) Don't sell them Kris, you'll be sad. > Also I found they're one of the best processor out > there for putting distortion on keyboard sounds > (though not for guitar) > > Mark > > Mark > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > >