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Try http://www.codeproject.com/cs/media/MIDIToolkit.asp. Works like a champ, but you will have to code a little extra for device messages... -----Original Message----- From: aaron leese [mailto:aaronleese@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 3:58 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: loop quantization question Good to know. Believe me ... though I want nothing more than to quit my day job and sit around playing music all day ... I haven't been expecting to get rich off this ..... I still have the job, and really just want a looper that will do certain things. The patent is provisional .. no real investment, just wanted it in case. Lawyers make me queasy ... and poor to boot.... and I think I could forego most any feature if oral sex were added as a plugin somewhere. Sounds like I need to check out Mobius .... and maybe a few other things as well. If Mobius does everything I want then I will probably stop spending all my free time fighting with my computer and just use Mobius... PS - speaking of fighting with computers, does anyone know an easy method for reading midi device messages in C# ? New territory for me ... and I really like the idea of user assignable functions for arbitrary midi keys. >From: "jeff larson" <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com> >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >Subject: RE: loop quantization question >Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 11:54:18 -0500 > > > From: Joshua Carroll > > I'd recommend checking out the manuals for the EDP and the > > Looperlative before you deal with the patent office too much. > > I've dealt with them before, and it can cost you a ton of time > > and money if you've overlooked > >Yes, if you're going to whip out the lawyers, be prepared to have a >few tens of thousands of dollars laying around (that you can risk >losing), and set aside one or two years for distraction, anger, >bitterness, and all those lovely emotions that seem to happen >whenever lawyers are near ;-) > >Look, I'm sure it's obvious by now that I wrote Mobius and it may >sound like I'm trying to discourage you, but I've been in the software >business a lot longer than you have and I'm just trying to bring a >little reality to the discussion. > >Maybe the reason you didn't think anyone had done this before is >because you were looking at the major software vendors: Native >Instruments, Cakewalk, Steinberg, etc. and not the "hobbyists" that >do it because they love it and are happy to get an occasional >donation. > >Maybe the reason that the major software vendors haven't done this is >because it isn't worth their time? > >You've written something really cool, with what appears to be a nice >clean interface that will be a lot easier to understand and use than >some of the existing loopers. I encourage you to develop it, anything >that makes the world of looping more accessible is fine by me. > >How much were you thinking you could make on this? A million dollars >(10,000 copies at $100)? No one makes that on software like this. >And don't even think of trying to sell this in the $500 range, people >expect everything short of oral sex from $500 music software. > >I've lost interest in trying to measure the size of this market, I can >only relate my own experience. Mobius is a relatively popular >software looper within our little looping community. I give it away for >free because I reached a point in my life where I wanted to use my >talents to support the arts (but that's another long story). > >There are about 100 people in my Yahoo group, I estimate that maybe >half of those are serious users that would be willing to give me a >donation. Donations for self-distributed software usually run in the >$50 to $100 range. Maybe there are 100 more users that just haven't >bothered to join the group. So that's 150 users at $50 for a grand >total of $7,500. > >This is going to sound arrogant, but that isn't a lot of money to most >professional engineers. It isn't worth my time to go "commercial" for >that kind of return because once people start paying you for software, >they expect a certain level of support and "polish" that I just >don't need to mess with. > >Maybe if I took out some ads in Electronic Musician or Guitar Player I >could generate more leads. But I'm simply not willing to risk >thousands of dollars in advertising on a product that I can barely >give away for free. > >Again I do encourage you to continue developing this. Who knows, >maybe you'll have enough energy for promotion to become wildly >successful. If so I'll be cheering for you from my little >corner of the looping world. But I strongly advise that before >you start investing thousands of dollars in advertising >(or legal fees) that you have a really good idea of how large >your market is, and what they're willing to pay. > >Regards, >Jeff > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/