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Just to backtrack a bit on this gear thing (the sub-string about pedal order), experience has shown me that on rare occasions, modulation and delay devices can sound great BEFORE distortion. Three examples: 1. MXR flange on slow, fairly wide sweep (not Van Halen/airplane wide) in front of a dimed Rat can produce some fine "Big Country" bagpipe sounds. 2. The same flange, same setting, before a nice overdrive like my good cheap Boss SD-1, creates the Killing Joke "Love Like Blood" sound. 3. A delay before heavy overdrive can give you a wonderfully chaotic sound reminiscent of mid-'70s Crazy Horse or U2's Eleven O'Clock Tick Tock." Yours in Sound, Tim www.myspace.com/timmungenast www.mungenast.com www.cdbaby.com/all/timgoat > [Original Message] > From: Todd Pafford <calenlas@gmail.com> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Date: 7/17/2006 6:53:27 PM > Subject: Re: what kind of gear setups to you guys use ? > > Mark, > > I'm with you on the stereo thing. A couple of years back I bought a > small (150Watt) Carvin power amp and a pair of their small club > speakers. Effectively the same volume as a traditional 2x12 guitar > amp, but pristine sound quality and true stereo all the way through. > All in the neighborhood of $500. Like you, I already had everything > up to the mixer and just needed some way to get my sound out there. > Works like a charm. > > Todd > > > On 7/17/06, mark sottilaro <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> wrote: > > To do this I've abandoned traditional amp setups > > because even those that have a stereo effects loop > > (rare) I still don't have the flexibility I'd like. > > > > Instead I use a Vox Tonelab SE (search the archives on > > my email and Vox and Bill Walker's name too) This way > > my signal stays a line level signal and I can bring it > > into a mixer and use sends to route effects or connect > > a seperate recorder. The whole thing is fairly simple > > and I find most gigs have some sort of PA I can use > > anyway. > > > > Lately however I'm gearing up to go > > guitar->Tonelab->Mixer|effects loop out-> > > laptop->Mixer. There may be a way to get a recording > > out of this setup too... Not sure if the laptop is > > fast enough to do all this...though I rarely record > > myself live. > > > > M > >