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Hi Mike > Maybe you could reserve one phrase of the three for rhythm or other base > music, and cycle two phrases for fading. I've tried both strategies and > they work well. Yes, I've also worked with that. It's quite a bit of pedal pushing, though. "Looping veterans" seem to want a very simple setup: they want to adjust a certain feedback level right from the beginning. Then they know that every loops playsback -say- 5 times before it's gone. This is what you can do with my setup also on the RC-50. I agree that there is still quite a bit of depth to the RC-50 - and also couple frustrating things. If there is supposed to be a software update in Autmn, this is really good :-) Best regards Buzap -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer