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On 27 jul 2006, at 10.01, a k butler wrote: > To make a split between feedback-looping and sample-looping maybe > helps in discussion, but there's actually not a distinct barrier > between those two styles, other than the one produced by lack of > imagination. > With new technology, there's always the opportunity to make "old" > music quicker and easier, and usually that's the first use it gets > put to, but there's also the possibility to make a new music that > no-one heard before, that's something I find interesting. > > andy butler You made my day, Andy! :-) Very well said. > ps > Recently I've been using feedback in a different way, using rapid > drops in feedback level to replace small sections of what is > essentially a "sample" based loop.....so that's feedback, but it's > hardly "echoing". That's an interesting way of using feedback! Sometimes I have also used it create "tremolo" in a loop by rhythmically "pumping" the feedback pedal. Andy's post made me think over my recent musical activities and funnily I found that I rarely do any traditional feedback looping these days. At the moment I'm very keen on applying feedback only when overdubbing. So when I'm looping the background only fades down under my new overdubs. Sometimes I overdub for the entire loop length, which kind of equals traditional feedback looping, but if I punch in certain add-ons here and where this technique creates a musical bed that, sound design wise, resembles the studio technique of "ducking" one track with the sound of another (typical example is a funk/disco mix where the base track is ducked - sidechained - by the kick drum track, thus leaving a well fit "pocket" in long bass notes for the kick to be heard through). With my EDP I achieve this by plugging a dummy into the rear pedal jack and running the EDP in "Replace Mode" and in Mobius I achieve it by working in "Expert Interface Mode", a mode that gives you two types of feedback; one traditional and one to be applied under SUSSubstitute etc. I actually use traditional feedback more on tracks that I'm not recording into (in Mobius that is) to create fade out of other loops while I'm building a new one (like playing and recording a loop to track 4 while using feedback to simultaneously fade out loops on track 3, 7 and 8 - just an example). This post also applies to Ricks thread on "Favorite threads" because, personally, I tend to pick for reading those posts that give practical hints on how to create different musical buildings by using all kinds of techniques in live looping. If I should read everything else I would have to almost stop making my own music (which I make according to my own muse). That's also why I subscribe to single messages; by setting up a mail application rule I have them auto- sorted into a "Loopers" box and by scanning the subject lines I can select and delete bunches in a second (which saves me time for reading the good posts). I save the posts I like locally on all my computers as a sort of "knowledge bank". Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom