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well i meant it in a humorous way kris,i actually take a piss out of some imperfect bad timing sounding loops and actually like to deliverly make people aware of them actually such loops can be use for entertainment to show people that u are still human,i ve dont take looping too seriously on stage anymore because of the fact that things can go wrong anytime.But if i dont want people to notice mistakes i just keep playing the guitar and push the "erase all" button ha ha what a great feeling! after that the worst thing that can happen is the breaking of a string or dropping dead... Yesterday i played for a fashion show,did soundcheck everything was cool and when the show started everytime i pushed the overdub button on the EDP the guitar sounded really loud!i was just thinking fuck me man why now and not during soundcheck you piece of shit!I reseted my rack and evrything was back to normal...this happened about to me about a year ago but dont ask me why! Luis --- Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote: > Interesting side topic from this...I have yet to > experience my laptop or VST > host crash during a performance. So what would I do > if this occurred? I'd > naturally play off the prior themes I was creating > with my loops and > effects, and continue that thread of feel in > solo...just the guitar, dry > with no effects or looping...I'd do that for a while > and then naturally end > the piece, take a break, and then reboot. In short, > I'd make it "appear" > all planned, like most professionals in the > entertainment business would do. > The show must go on. Of course, the fear of doing > otherwise is probably a > defect of my compulsive personality, and an overly > exaggurated sense of > self-pride in my work. > > I always cringe when most musicians make mistakes or > experience gear issues > and then make the audience aware of this in detail, > completely blowing the > feel of the performance. Some performers have a good > sense of humor and can > pull it off, making jokes and making the audience > laugh at the technological > blunder...others stumble around and it comes across > as really awkward and > unprofessional. And then my biggest pet peeve is > when performers make > mistakes and insist on telling the audience this, > self-deprecating > themselves in the process. "whoops, sorry, oh, let's > try that again...sorry, > I need to practice, etc, etc". I feel so > embarrassed for people when they > do that. I prefer that they just keep going rather > than repeat the mistake > or section ad nauseum, as if they have to get it > right to move on. > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "L.A. Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 12:52 AM > Subject: Re: Favorite Five Threads on L.D. > > > > > > Do it man! > > i guess the question about correcting a loop that > has > > gone wrong would apply more to loops that are > supposed > > to be perfect in sync or when trying to play > something > > really "groovy" rhythmically.This is why the EDP > has > > become my looper of preference,with this machine i > can > > comfortably make music out of mistakes,its non > latency > > response and well thought out edit capabilities > give > > me the most confidence onstage.With the repeater i > > often had little groove problems,i often had to > adapt > > to its little latency which made it a bit > > uncomfortable,although i will miss a lot of its > cool > > features like panning,pitch shifting track muting > etc. > > so i would just say to the audience stay with me > folks > > i promise i will get it right;-) > > cheers > > Luis > > > > > > > > > > --- Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote: > > > >> Can I post again? Please? :) > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "L.A. Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com> > >> > >> > what percentage of loopers go and play 100% > >> improvised > >> > loops or arranged premeditated loops on stage? > >> > >> That's my bag all right....everything I do these > >> days is totally > >> spontaneous. It's like doing drugs, but it's > legal. > >> > >> > how do you correct a bad loop on stage,stop > >> > abruptly,bullshit your way while tweaking or > >> shoe/rack > >> > gazing until u get it right? > >> > >> To play off a famous quote of Miles Davis, "Do > not > >> be afraid of errors. > >> There are no errors", I never play bad or > incorrect > >> loops. On occasion, I > >> might play something that doesn't ring well with > me > >> emotionally (neither > >> correct nor > >> incorrect), but I always manage to work with it > >> somehow. It becomes part of > >> me just like all my other personality, physical, > and > >> psychological flaws as > >> a > >> human being. Even if I loop something rhythmic > and > >> my foot fails me (maybe > >> because I have had one too many cups of coffee or > >> drank too much alcohol), > >> generating a loop that is an 8th note longer > rather > >> than what my brain > >> wanted to do > >> initially, that instantly becomes the norm and > basis > >> of what I do > >> afterwards. I don't really care if I intend on > >> playing a 4/4 phrase but it > >> ends > >> up being 9/8 or 7/8, or even something like 13/8 > or > >> 11/8. In fact, I don't > >> even > >> count anymore. I never know what time signature I > am > >> in unless I consciously > >> stop to figure it out. It's a waste of my time. > >> Everything is feel to me > >> now. > >> > >> > for those who do or care how do you keep your > >> audience > >> > interested,do you always loop? > >> > >> I loop. I try to talk, but I never say what I > want > >> to say. Music is much > >> easer as > >> language for me in public. I prefer to play > non-stop > >> and say thank you at > >> the end of the show. > >> > >> > whats the best looping show you´ve been to? > what > >> made > >> > it so great? > >> > >> I really enjoyed watching Jeff Kaiser, Rick > Walker, > >> and Ted Killian > >> at the Boise Experimental Music Festival. I > liked > >> it when some folks > >> were talking in the crowd, and then Jeff started > >> looping him self > >> whispering "stop talking". Classic, I loved it. > And > >> their set was great. > >> Good chemistry, lots of space and diverse sounds, > >> etc, etc. > >> > >> > What makes you feel free while playing > >> music?organized > >> > or improvised? > >> > >> Improvised...as free as a person can get, at > least, > >> metaphorically. I tend > >> to subscribe > >> to hard determinism these days...no free will, > just > >> chemistry, neurons, > >> cause and effect, and necessity. I think I'm > >> determined to do what I do. > >> Everything is a result of a cause, ad infinitum. > >> That would be an > >> unproveable premise, btw. > >> > >> > i know some of this has been brought up in the > >> past > >> > perhaps but i think we all could use a > >> refreshment! > === message truncated === www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com