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Re: ...what to go for then?



Cool!  Sounds like a fun show.

I'm no hardware expert, but I'd look at the Gibson Echoplex Digital Pro I know it does all you want.  If you ask around on this list, there may be one or two up for sale.  If you want to do multiple loops with separate volumes, etc., you'll have to look at the Looperlative or go the laptop route.  The Boomerang might also work.  I believe it does Verse/Chorus type "Or" loops, but I don't know if it has a multiply function for laying longer loops over shorter ones.  The Repeater might also be cool to use with a DJ since I hear it has some pretty cool time-stretching capabilities, but beyond that I don't know any of it's functionality.  Other people on here might be able to make other suggestions.

Also, be aware that I believe most of the hardware loopers out there are mono, not stereo.

Good luck!

--Josh



tunga.muzik wrote:
Well, what do you want to do?
- Mostly to be able to loop in sync to what a Dj is playing.
 
Are you playing an instrument, singing, beatboxing? 
- Yes, I´d be playing guitars, bass guitar and singing.
 
Is it important for you to be able to have seperate loops for verse/chorus type structures or to overdub longer phrases overtop of shorter ones?
- Yes this is very important.
 
Do you need to be able to control volumes of seperate loops simultaneously?
- Not so important at first, but really cool.
 
Also, it´d be cool to go stereo, but as far as I know, the RC-50 is the only that would go stereo, and RC-50 is not a choice now. All others I guess would cost me double to do so.

--Josh



tunga.muzik wrote:
I´m going with the individual items idea. I really ain´t got the time to try a laptop system, although that sure might have its highlights.
 
The purpose of  question at first was really to have info from you guys who own or have owned and performed live with models like RC-20, RC-20XL, JamMan, Boomerang, Akai Headrush....the standard units, cause I´ll probably go for one of these. Also, it´d be so cool learning with you people who have performed with a DJ, in a "live" experience. That would really make clear which features can not fail, or must be reliable at all.
 
See, at this point it´s about getting the coolest/best individual unit, so that I can perform a very reliable/creative gig with the DJ community and/or a stand alone act - have in mind I would go for the RC-50 before reading web reviews about it, so it´s not all about saving a few bucks.
 
Also, the DD-20 and LINE 6 DL4, I wouldn´t consider using them as a looper unit, as I think it´d be a limited choice for a serious looper. Now thinking it as a delay unit, again from you actual or past owners, what about the features, sound quality, ease of use of each one, which is the best?
 
Thanks again.
 
Peace.
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: ...what to go for then?

Hey community-
    Have we ever discussed the difference between a looper and a long delay? Methinks a looper can store a few audio loops, can start, stop, restsart and/or continue on command, and can "undo" one or more levels of looping. A long delay won't do these things, but will have a feedback function so loops can fade away as new material is added. Any more differentiating features?
    I ask this because I'm reading this thread, thinking, Boss DD-20! Boss DD-20! Makes a great looper! (except it doesn't do those "looper" things mentioned above)
 
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:19 AM
Subject: ...what to go for then?

Hi there,
 
I´m also new to this community, been playing guitar for 15 years now and have been invited by some DJs to perform live with them. Obviously I need a looper, and I was just about to go and get a RC-50 , but that was before I read reviews on harmony-central, musiciansfriend.com, loopers delight, etc.....I was excited about going stereo, having 3 phrase tracks, such long recording time......bla, bla, bla...........but as I would have it mainly for live performances, just put it aside for this moment.
 
RC-20XL is mono, seems to degrade sound quality as more phrases are added onto previous recorded ones, has the 2 seconds pressed pedal waiting time to change recording/dubbing functions......sounds not pro enough.
 
Also read a lot about some little issues on Digitech JamMan, Boomerang, Electro Harmonix 2880, etc.......even the Gibson Echoplex Digital ProPlus got bad reviews.
 
Sincerely....I got lost in the middle of everything, so it got cloudy for me to define what should I buy at this moment, what will give me condition for a reliable and creative live performance, and also be a smart option regarding the cost X benefit X technology X quality issue.
 
Counting on your expertise people....thanks a lot.
 
Peace.
 
TUNGA

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