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a k butler wrote: > video looping is achieved by pointing the camera at the screen :-) you could build a video looper with a pair of hacked vhs decks, couldn't you? one records, the other plays. mangle a vhs cassette, splice together a loop, rig up a flash feed system.. been meaning to do that for ages, actually. -- f r e y live music with machines http://www.frey.co.nz