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Thats precisely the problem,this are the only clubs offering live music and hiring musicians,it used to be galeries and museums but that has gone down at least here where i live.So ive taken a chance at times(and actually at the request of the same bar owners) to do something different,but i know now that as open as they might seem their concept of "different" is different than mine and based on selling drinks and keeping the crowd in;-) I just love getting outhere and play,there is only so much u can learn by sitting in your room and i always learn something from every gig wether good or bad. The irony is that even though maybe i wont be called back in such places it has gotten me other gigs in the right places.I did a gig 2 weeks ago at an art expo from a local artist who saw me and i offered to play for free after he said he didnt have a budget, but he liked it so much that he offered to pay me with one of his paintings,this offcourse is very rewarding! Luis --- "markfrancombe.com" <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote: > Im interested that you guys even risk playing "Irish > pubs" or "coffee bars"!!! (Altho I realise that > Coffee bars are a "thing" in th US) > Here in Europe (OSlo to be specific) I could play > every weekend at some such weird venue or other, (if > only I could get off my ass to arrange it...(still > feel guilty Rick!!!) ) > > I always play in front of completely appreciative > crowds where I am often the more "musical" of a > bunch of acts... as in "I play notes occasionally". > Or maybe I'm just spoilt by living in the Oslo Noise > scene for the last 8 years... > I just wouldnt risk plying somewhere I know to be > wrong... what would be the point??? Door money??? I > dont think so! LOL!! > > I remember one gig I did with The cranes tho, in > um... snowy place... um.. damn it... ahh yes > Vermont! Where, after the show our manager came back > from the office with a grim look, "Lets go" he > said... "unless you guys can play Freebird or > someting" We looked at each other wondering... whats > Freebird??? Apparently, the scene in the Venue > office was... Club owner with gun on table, saying.. > IM not gonna pay you, gotta problem with that? > We of course did what any sensible band would do in > such circumstances... put suger in his pick-ups > petrol tank and drove like the wind outta state!!! > > mark francombe > marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com he writes > for www.furthernoise.org and works at www.transformlearning.com www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com