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Hey Kim, et al, Well the October 3rd 10-year anniversary of my own first post to the list kinda slipped by me. I meant to post something by way of a "thank you" and "Happy 10th" then. What can I say? I'm kinda slow. I just want to say here publicly (and for the record) that Kim has done an amazing thing. He has provided a place for a previously nonexistent community (albeit virtual) to develop and thrive for over 10 years. That is an amazing feat. This forum -- and the many friends I have made on it -- have made a great difference in my life over the past decade. Words cannot express the gratitude I feel Kim. Thanks is too small a word. For what it's worth. I'll put a coin or two in the LD PayPal "cup" at: <http://www.loopersdelight.com/loop.html> I encourage any others here who appreciate this little place in cyberspace to do the same. Hope to see you all at the party in Oakland: Friday, October 20, 2006, 8pm Orbis Nex, 851 81st Ave, Unit 217, Oakland, CA, USA (dial 200 at the door) $5 donation at the door, BYOB. Best regards, Ted Killian