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As far as I know the only "Loop station" (or as I call it, a "looper") that does pitch shifting (with no tempo change) is The Electrix Repeater. Sounds great. Alternately you can do fun stuff with the speed of your loop that doesn't change the pitch. What will my loop sound like at 20 bpm without effecting the pitch? Give the knob a twirl and find out. For software, Live does a nice job of changing pitch up or down... so does Mobius I think, though I've never used it for this. Also for funky synthy stuff check out Kantos. You can find it for $50 on ebay and works pretty well with guitar or voice. EDP, Looperlative and others all have half speed functions so if you can play your bass line at double speed and then later slow it down, it works very nicely, but sounds slowed down. Cool but different. Mark __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com