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Hey Per, Why don't you have a look at Audiomulch? It seems to have all the features you need, runs under windows and is cheap to buy and intuitive to learn as well as being very powerful. G ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 6:08 PM Subject: MAX/msp question > Hi, > > If you're not interested in MAX or laptop based looping rigs, please > ignore this post. > > During the last days I have examined Ableton Live 6.0.1 and >unfortunately > found that it lacks one function that is very important for me: calling > up multi effect patches ("Racks") by external MIDI (using foot pedals). > > --> I guess this is possible with MAX, isn't it? > > By studying the Eventide Eclipse and my own TC Electronic FirefirX for > two years I have finally learned enough about combining different >effects > and I'm now confident that I'm able to recreate "my sound" from any >audio > audio processing environment that provides the usual modules as well > efficient wiring and side-chaining (read "MAX"... I guess?). > > I would probably get rather far by only using VST or AU (preferably >VST, > since I like to assemble the processed audio as loops in Mobius, which > sadly is Windows XP only). I guess MAX displays loaded VST's parameters > and makes it possible to, for example, take one parameter out of VST A > and run it through a "scaling module" (eventually with also a > "multiply/division coefficient" that may be directly controlled from a > MIDI expression pedal) to have it control a targeted parameter in some > other VST plug-in. > > --> I guess this is possible with MAX, isn't it? > > To go even further into details, here are some examples of typical >multi > effect patches (my musical imagination includes twenty patches that I > want to have instantly accessible when playing): > > FX patch example 1: > - Input > - Signal split into three parallel lines > - Parallel line 1: Dry signal > - Parallel line 2: Harmonizer + 5 (wet signal) > - Parallel line 3: Harmonizer - 7 (wet signal) > - Summing of the three parallel signal lines > - Compressor > - Output > > FX patch example 2: > - Input > - Reverb > - Signal split into two parallel lines > - Parallel line 1: Dry signal > - Parallel line 2: Reverb signal (this line includes a filter which > cut-off function is controlled by a step sequencer) > - Summing of the two parallel lines > - Compressor > - Output > (associated module: Step Sequencer) > > In example 2 a MIDI expression pedal should be mapped to control the > volume of the second parallel line (step sequence filtered reverb). A > more advanced version of this FX patch also includes a random LFO > controlling the tempo division of the step sequencer that is >controlling > the filter cut-off that shapes the reverb tail. > > --> I guess this is possible with MAX, isn't it? > > Regarding my preferred looper Mobius in MAX, I do not intend to run > Mobius tracks as separate outputs into MAX for the purpose of applying > effects post loop. I prefer the performance technique where you apply > effects to the looper input (MAX + VST's) and record the effects as >part > of the loop (into some Mobius track). Although this does limit the > options in theory I have found it more intuitively "playable" in praxis. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > http://www.myspace.com/looproom > > > > >