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Hey mech, thanks for your input. I was kind of hoping there would be something a little more recent than 1987! Fidelity is an important factor for me, although some of my gear is not that recent I would prefer the final output to be as clear as possible. The filtering sounds interesting though, love the analogue filter sound. Greg > At 1:02 AM +0000 10/31/06, Greg Mills wrote: >> >> I've been trying to build up my guitar rig for a while and have >> gathered a few effects boxes and rack units along the way. I need a >> way to connect it all together such that whatever combination I come >> up with I can save as a preset. Does anyone know of a small (rack >> sized) 8 to 12 channel, 2 or 4 bus mixer that has MIDI scene recall? >> I would prefer this to one of the many guitar oriented 'matrix' type >> units available (such as the Switchblade, Max1, G-System, etc.) > > Well, I think I've posted about it previously (check the archives for > full details) but there's the old Simmons SPM 8:2 from circa 1987. > > Essentials: 8 single channels with pan, 3-band parametric EQ, two > mono effect sends/returns, MIDI scene recall (can fade between > presets), unbalanced 1/4" inputs and stereo main outs, and some > limited effects (panning and filtering using envelope or LFO). > > Pros: compact (1U rackmount); 128 MIDI-recallable presets/scenes; > cheap (~$50 - $100) on ebay; filter effect uses the same CEM chip > found in many analog (Oberheim) synthesizers; extremely feature-laden. > > Cons: earlier software revisions can be a bit noisy (version 4 was > the last official, and quietest, rev); older unit so no support; > fidelity is a little less than more modern units (response starts to > drop off around ~15k, so it's okay for straight guitar/bass and many > voices -- less so for instruments requiring a wider frequency range); > programming can be more than a bit tedious(!); program dumps are only > to tape, with no official MIDI support for that. > > Also, with regard to the fidelity issue, I've a suspicion that much > of that -- as well as the noise issues -- could be solved by > replacing the older op-amps with more modern chips. However, I > haven't found a bench tech willing to do that on mine yet. > > --m.