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God I wish my SIMMONS SPM 8:2... was less noisy and generally better quality.. It should rock!! 8 channels, each channel has, gain, pan, bass ,sweepable mid, treble 2 FX sends AND an LFO that can be set to pan or sweep the mid. Everything can be saved, and heres the good bit... you can have a X-fade time between patches... so when you hit a new "scene" it can fade/morph to the new settings... quite incredible for an old piece of s*** from the 80's, originally designed to mix a Simmons elecronic kit!!! Now used in my gear as the mixer for my modular stuff... just too hissy for anything else... shame... however my main Behringer mixer is also a pile... and I have a crackly 20 ch Tascam mixer thats looking sad too... *sigh*... should sell the lot really... but who would buy... *cry* ... whats that guy called who creates feedback thru mixers... he must need spares??? m mark francombe marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com he writes for www.furthernoise.org and works at www.transformlearning.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 2776 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now!