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Re: Bidule/EnergyTX/Audiomulch



Paul,

Is it possible to change settings within each effect chain?  For example, for non-looping gigs, it's pretty normal for me to run chorus and delay patches.  The delay times are different depending on the song.  So, instead of having ten effect chains that are the same (except some of the parameters are different, i.e. delay time), is it possible to pull up the effect chain you need and then select the patch for a specific song within that chain...all via MIDI patch change.  I can just imagine things getting a little cumbersome if you have 75 effect chains.  Maybe I'm over thinking this?

Matt

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King Never

http://www.kingnever.com


On Nov 2, 2006, at 7:16 AM, paul wrote:

Hi Per,

You're exactly right, initially I had way overloaded my cpu and couldn't run anything! The thing to do here is to use a module called audio switcher which is connected to your midi pedal. This enables you to select which chain you want to use. Then in the paramaters you have to select the output processing mode of the audio switcher and link it to the mode of each vst in that chain. Once you've done that when you select a chain of effects the other chains are switched off and on your screen have a red circle with a line through it to show that chain is off. There is a good tutorial at http://www.mts.net/~mathers/q1_live.html that explains with pictures the whole process.

I had to add one more step to that tutorial and insert a program change filter on the line between my midi input and the audio switcher so that I could operate mobius without inadvertantly changing my vst chains.

Once I had this all laid out I've only had to tweek it a bit but I've been very happy with the results. I generally only have 3 or 4 effects in a chain, but some of them already have multiple effects running as in guitar rig or freeamp2 and those are quite cpu intensive. I found the chain with classic eq followed by freeamp is using about 29% while the chain running classic eq, psp vintage warmer, classic chorus, classic delay is running at about 12%
of course mobius is running all the time after these effects as all my chains are routed into a mixer module and then through mobius before going back into my audio card output.

I found that tutorial on this website http://www.mts.net/~mathers/FAQ_Index.html it has quite a few different tutorials. The biggest problem with Bidule for me has been the lack of really clear instructions on how to go about various layouts. I think for somebody who already has experience working with midi layouts there are great possibilities here, but a lot of it is just over my head.

best of luck with it,

Paul Haslem
Ontario, Canada
www.dulcify.ca



At 07:34 AM 11/2/2006, you wrote:
On 2 nov 2006, at 05.31, paul wrote:

 In Bidule I have 12 chains of effects that I can select from with
a midi foot pedal.

Hi Paul,

Very interesting. Would you mind explaining a little more how you
manage that without overloading the computer's CPU? If you have 12
chains with each of them containing maybe a dozen VST plug-ins I
guess you have set up a way to keep the plug-ins in mute mode except
for when their parent chain is activated by your food pedal - right?
Are you stuffing the VST plug-ins together as a Bidule Group and then
muting and unmuting that group? LIke each "effect chain" equalling a
Group?

It would be interesting to hear from your experience of how much the
CPU load goes down when keeping plug-ins loaded but muted. This
knowledge is kind of essential for those who still consider
eventually going into Bidule.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)