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At 23:00 04/11/2006, you wrote: >Yes, they are great! Thanks for the heads up! I ended up using two >such Pitch Shifters for a patch and it came out exactly as I had >heard it in my mind. I also use the Brainidoc Stereo Delay, for >another patch. Can't find any LFO's to drive parameter values from in >Bidule, though. Guess I'll have to make those things with Max? they're there somewhere, just keep looking. (don't remember where..sorry...but I have used them) I think you'll actually be able to do in Bidule anything you wanted to do in max. (as long as you have a few vst plugs as building blocks) andy