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On 27 nov 2006, at 00.49, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Per, can you share any of those recordings with the group? I > thought they were online somewhere. ' Sure! I found this unlinked old page: http://www.looproom.com/ looptour2003/edu.php > Regarding the syncing of multiple EDPs...you could do it so that > you aren't synced to a meter, correct? I don't understand this > feature of the EDPs that well, Simply connect a stereo cable between the two brother sync jacks. This is not syncing a specific meter, the meter is what you play (eventually...), but rather a "global timing base". It's established by the first EDP that creates a cycle. Other brother synced musicians can start loops on their local EDPs and depending on what 8ths/cycle setting they are using their own EDP makes up a cycle length (and a BPM tempo) related to the global beat. If a local musician have other gear synced to his EDP by MIDI clock this slaving gear will follow his own local tempo, which may be the same or a division of the global tempo. > It would be cool if Mobius has a features like this, to be able to > connect multiple Mobius apps on many laptops. Mobius already has that, because each track in Mobius is like a brother synced EDP. You can create parallel loops on different tracks that do not have the same length and eventually get back on the same down beat only after many, many rounds. So if you MIDI Clock sync a bunch of EDPs running Mobius it equals a bunch of brother synced EDP racks ;-)) Kris, I don't understand your constant implications that "sync" would be something statical or mechanical in musicianship. You don't have to play stiff just because there is a global tempo somewhere! The best "free, non-meter," improvisations usually follow a tempo pretty close - it's just that no one in the group plays it out explicitly. Rick Walker is a good example of a great musician that can play ritardando or accelerando over a stiff tempo - I mean actually slowly change his playing tempo until he hooks up with the sync in double- or halfspeed. Charlie Watts of the Rolling Stones is a drummer that has always done that in a more minimal approach... well, he, he... maybe we should just say that he was temporarily absent minded behind his drum kit and fell back into a slower tempo and then woke up a bit and started to catch up with the rest of the band over quite a long period. I have always loved that drum playing. One drummer that is on many Ry Cooder records have the same elastic tempo feel - don't know his name but it sounds great to me (and STuart Copeland, not to forget)! One time I was talking with a Death Metal producer here and this guy told me that he never wants the drummer in the band to overdub a tambourine in the studio, because "drummers play too perfectly on the beat". He wants guitarists to lay down the tambourine because " for a guitarist, or a singer, the important thing is not to lay down a steady beat - it is to put on a show and create tension". Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom