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I'm quite into generative exercises, like the ones Rick just posted. "Generative" in the sense: you give a simple rule which generates many exercises. I was playing around with a slightly different approach: Take any 4/4 groove and loop it. Each of the four crotchets (quarter-notes) within the bar consists of four 16th notes. Within a crotchet you can accentuate four different 16ths. Now limit yourself to one 16th per crotchet and codify them with numbers: 1 -> 1st 16th within the crotchet 2 -> 2nd 16th within the crotchet 3 -> 3rd 16th within the crotchet 4 -> 4th 16th within the crotchet With four numbers you can generate 24 ( = 4*3*2) permutations, so this gives you 24 different ways to fill a 4/4 bar with four 16th notes: 1. 1234 2. 1243 3. 1324 4. 1342 5. 1423 6. 1432 7. 2134 <- pattern 4. shifted left 3 x (or right shift) 8. 2143 <- pattern 6. shifted left 3 x (or right shift) 9. 2314 <- pattern 5. shifted left 2 x 10. 2341 <- pattern 1. shifted left 11. 2413 <- pattern 3. shifted left 2 x 12. 2431 <- pattern 2. shifted left 13. 3124 <- pattern 2. shifted left 3 x (or right shift) 14. 3142 <- pattern 5. shifted left 3 x (or right shift) 15. 3214 <- pattern 6. shifted left 2 x 16. 3241 <- pattern 3. shifted left 17. 3412 <- pattern 1. shifted left 2 x 18. 3421 <- pattern 3. shifted left 19. 4123 <- pattern 1. shifted left 3 x (or right shift) 20. 4132 <- pattern 3. shifted left 3 x (or right shift) 21. 4213 <- pattern 4. shifted left 2 x 22. 4231 <- pattern 5. shifted left 23. 4312 <- pattern 2. shifted left 2 x 24. 4321 <- pattern 6. shifted left The analysis shows that the first 6 permutations are sort of unique, while the 18 remaining ones are just left or right shifts of the first 6 permutations. I started playing them, however, I already got obsessed with the first permutation 1234. I think the fascination comes from the equal distance between 1, 2, 3, and 4, consisting of five 16ths each. This creates the illusion of a 5-rhythm which is discarded at the beginning of each bar. My poor jam buddies have to put up with me, because I tend to all of a sudden just play that pattern over whatever groove we're playing (and probably ending up "cruzado" most of the time, see Rick's post about this http://loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200612/msg00562.html or http://tinyurl.com/yzfkb3). If I get their permission I'll post some jam examples. This is a tiny example of it: http://tinyurl.com/tgnq6 Some more mp3 snippets up using that 1234 pattern on: http://nosuch. b iz/soundz/echoplexLoops.html (sorry for the gaps in the url: spam filters force me. Use this: http://tinyurl.com/yfv63c) It's the files named permute16th0*.mp3 Bernhard (logging off. Good luck to all for 2007, CU next year!)