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--- bill bigrig <billbigrig@yahoo.com> wrote: > howdy, > > can someone explain to me this "live looping" > thing? Oh, you're already doing it my friend. > I've been using Ibanez DM-1100s for years by pushing > the "Hold" button and manipulating the speed, > repetition, and mod controls in real time. I don't know about the DM-1100s, but a lot of units in it's day let you "freeze" (Set feedback to 100% and not feed any more signal into the loop) but also allow you to open the loop back up and continue adding. Often if you change the feedback to less than 100% you can get nice evolving loops (though technically it's no longer a true loop we still talk about that effect as such here) There's lots of units that do some looping and not all of them are really expensive. Your best bet is to take a trip over to the "tools of the trade" page on Looper's Delight and read a brief description and review of most of them to get a feel for what's possible. Then check ebay to see the prices of different things. I still think one of the great loopers of our time is the Lexicon JamMan and it can often be found fairly cheaply on ebay. Other classics are the Gibson/Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro and Electrix Repeater, but they're more high end loopers filled with lots of features and often fetch fairly high prices even used. I think the Echoplex is still in production though. The current most full featured hardware based looper out there is the Looperlative. That baby will set you back $1500 I think, but I'm told it's become an amazing product. If you have a decent computer and firewire or usb2 audio card then Mobius or Angstromloop are VST loopers that are FREE. Angstomloop is very simple (though useful) and Mobius is very full featured and roughly based on the Echoplex. With either you'll also want a MIDI controller. Good luck, Mark __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com