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The device I built for Todd Green can allow you to do this in it's latest rendition we're working on. I could mod his original to do it but he didn't see use for it in his performance at the time. The perf. controller I built again, has four channels. THere is a VCA box in the rack that has the jamman units. The control voltages for those come from his pedal board. He has one volume pedal. And a box for the record/erase etc. functions. And a box for selecting/deselecting channels, muting channels and indicating that status, and indicating the current volume of that channel. And there's a global select/deselect button for convenience though he never uses that he said. -Bob Per Boysen wrote: > On 11 jan 2007, at 16.31, aaron leese wrote: > >> I'm not sure if this posted last time, there is almost never NO >> reponse on this list. >> >> I was just wondering if anyone else is interested in being able to >> crossfading between loop ..... seems like a useful feature to me >> ..... especially for DJs who use crossfaders ad nauseum. >> but I don't know if I have really seen it done much before. > > > I am! I'm definitely interested in crossfading between loops and I do > it quite often in my sets. > >> If your not sure what I mean by crossfading between loops, please >> check out this demo: >> www.flyloops.com/drum1.swf > > > Yes, I hear you. The guy on the video seems to use a dj mixer and > those do all rely on a global crossfade control fader to morph > between two channels, typically carrying a turntable signal each. I > guess what you are interested in is the MORPHING quality? I mean, a > lot of loopers do "cross switching" all the time, jumping from let's > say beat three in loop one to beat there in loop two and eventually > back again. But there's no simultaneous fading happening here, no > morphing, just a direct switching. > > Don't know if you're interested in loose feedback on the topic, but > since this is a discussion list - here we go... > > A very simple kind of crossfade between two mono loops is to use the > pan knob for a stereo channel; if the stereo channel is played back > in mono the pan knob will work just as a crossfading volume contol. > Myself I have done a lot of crossfading with an analog filterbank > that gives the option to use filter cut-off for to morph from one > signal chain into another one (picked up the idea long ago from > hearing mixes by ARmand van Helden). For anyone using Ableton Live > there is a built-in corssfade function: each track/channel can be > given an "A" or "B" suffix to bind them for either side of the > crossfade controller. When looping with many looping devices or with > a multi channel looper I do crossfades by using the volume faders. In > Mobius I have certain scripts (binded to physical MIDI buttons on my > Faderfox hand controller) that either Fade In or Fade Out the loop > playing on a certain Track/Channel. To set off an automized crossfade > I simply press two buttons: FAde Out for the playing loop and Fade IN > for the silent loop that I want to take over. I tend to prefer long > crossfade times for this because I play instruments at the same time, > but also because I find that more musically interesting. To create > glitchy stuff (that many DJ's do on a dj mixer/turntables) I rather > like to use the direct slice cutting of a loop - inserting chunks of > new audio here and there. Speaking about Fade In/Out, the AU looping > plug-in Augustus Looper already have built-in support for doing that. > The GUI have a button named "Fade" and it fades in if the volume is > down and fades out if the volume is up - even better than my > scripting fix in Mobius! When running multiple Augstus Loop plug-ins > this function gives a crossfade functions. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > http://www.myspace.com/looproom > > > >