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Re: RC-50 weirdness: conclusion



call them once a week to complain about this stuff. If they don't hear from us it will never get fixed.

squeaky wheels unite

Teddy


On Feb 13, 2007, at 10:35 AM, midifriedchicken@comcast.net wrote:

I've never had any luck syncing the RC-50. I did notice on the Roland website, there was a firmware update. But this was for the glitch that caused the bit of silence when going from record to play. Its still a little weird. I just always play one more cycle with the RC off beofre I hit play. Still, the fact that they posted an update causes me to hope they will continue to try to fix it.
 
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From: Teddy <teddybutter@mac.com>
also, I talked to Roland US tech support tonight. They are aware of this problem and have voiced it to Japan but get no response.

bummer. it's such an awesome box for looping, and they advertise it as being able to sync with rest of the band. I hope they fix it soon. Maybe they haven't sold enough of them to care. The support guy seemed really bummed that he couldn't help.

Teddy

On Feb 12, 2007, at 7:49 PM, Teddy wrote:

Thanks to everyone who made suggestions on this topic.

I did an RC-50 experiment tonight.

track 1
2 bar loop of the guide in the RC-50 and looped it in pro tools.

track 2
I recorded a 10 minute segment of the guide in the RC-50 without sending midi clock to it

it did the same thing it has always done, won't sync to PT's click. so the theory of the approximate tap tempo is debunked. apparently the RC-50 doesn't care if you use the knob or tap, it's going to mess it up the same amount.

track 3
recorded a 10 minute segment of the guide with midi beat clock into the RC-50 from pro tools
the guide was 1600 samples behind pro tools click, so I put a delay on PT's click. it seemed to shift somewhere between 1600 samples an 1400 samples behind PT.

track 4
re-recorded the guide for 10 minutes and lined it up to the previously recorded guide. THAT worked perfectly !!!!!!!


SO.... in conclusion, to answer my own question:
The RC-50 has a mind of it's own and if you want to re-record things in later from it, better to just play it in for the duration of the song. OR the RC-50's tempo display is off/slow by about .05 bpm at 120 bpm.

Teddy