Re: Bought My First Looper - Here's the problem

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Yikes Sandy, $1000?  It would be the single most expensive piece of music gear I'd own.

It's a little out of my league I'm afraid.  Hopefully there's something cheaper that would do what I want.

Maybe the Boss RC-50.  That's about $500.  I could possible swing that.

I'm surprised it's not a standard feature in any looper that allows multiple loops and is performance oriented.  Otherwise you are limited to using loops you've prerecorded or, if you want to stick with live loops, only using one stack of loops.  I guess most of the time I've hear performers use loopers it seems to be used this way - one continuously building loop.  Or they just use it as a backing track to solo over in the middle of the song.

It sounds like the EDP would be ideal though.

Thanks for the advice...

----- Original Message ----
From: Sandy Rowles <sandy@pajiba.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:53:45 PM
Subject: Re: Bought My First Looper - Here's the problem

Dave, I have had a Boss rc-20xl ( very similar to Digitech Jamman) and a Lexicon Jamman. Both were fun to play with but I have since gotten an Echoplex Digital Pro (edp) and find that it suits me much better than any of the others I have had. I guess it really depends on what you want to do, but as far as making multiple separate loops without having to stop, and being able to switch between them seamlessly, the EDP is great. It isn't very cheap but it is my favorite and has been the most applicable in a live situation in my opinion.

On 2/18/07, x031661-loopers@yahoo.com <x031661-loopers@yahoo.com > wrote:

I've been reading about loopers for the last few days and it seems like, as with anything new, you don't really know what you want from reading about it.  I had to buy one, now I have a better idea what I want and I'm wondering if someone can tell me if I can actually get this from what I have, or what I should have bought.

I have a digitech JamMan.

I find it pretty easy to create loops with my guitar.  I like the Auto Record.  I find it easier not to use a pre-set tempo.  I like that I can overdub on a loop.  I like Undo.  I like that there's 99 loops possible.  I like that I can increase the memory.  I like that, during playback, you can change loops and it waits until the end of the current loop to switch.

A lot of these features might be normal for any looper - I don't know.

It seems to have a big deficiency for live use though in that I can't save a loop while the loop is playing.

What I want to be able to do is to record a loop, say a verse.  Let it loop as long as I need.  When the chorus comes I want to step to the next loop, which would be empty and record the chorus, let it loop as needed and then switch back to the verse and let it start looping the verse again.  Maybe I'd add an overdub or something, then switch to the chorus - come back to the verse etc.

The problem is, if I record the verse loop and then switch to the next loop number I lose the verse - because I didn't save it.  If I want to save it I must first stop it from playing, which is not appropriate live.

Is that a problem with most loopers?  I was also considering the Boss RC-20  or, if I must spend that much an RC-50.

Or maybe there's someway to get the JamMan to do what I want?

Any ideas or suggestions?

Dave