Re: Considering building an ultimate looper...

[Bob Weigel <sounddoctorin@imt.net>]

Hey..I know.  How about a plug in for an optional remote K-mart blue 
light special surplus light retro'd w/ a servo motor! hehe.  But 
seriously yeah that would be good and probably a click jack for using an 
earphone as well wouldn't be a bad thing.  If we americans can get off 
our tail and do something maybe the $ will be worth more again. Hehe. 
I'm trying to finish up a few projects I've had stacked up for a while.  
Worked in a board this weekend that wound up having not one but what at 
least 5 issues so far...and the last one is from Neptune of course.  
Stuff like that makes it LOOK like I do nothing of late.   -Bob

GORDIUS info wrote:

> ok, I'll pick a few of the easy things out and get busy ! The hard 
> stuff I leave to Bob ;-)
>  
> the smaller and USB-enabled FCB1010 is on its way.
>  
> the small bluetooth LCD : that's a cool idea ! I'll really look into 
> that. One day. It would immediately solve the request of kkissinger 
> for a remote tempo LED too.
>  
> Oh and... under $300 won't be a problem, once that 1 $ is worth a few 
> times more then 1 €  :-))
>  
>
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> *From:* midifriedchicken@comcast.net 
> [mailto:midifriedchicken@comcast.net]
> *Sent:* maandag 19 februari 2007 18:41
> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> *Subject:* RE: Considering building an ultimate looper...
>
> I'll tell you exactly what the ultimate looper is. Save you some trouble.
> Essentially it would be a stereo (or even surround) Echoplex. All the 
> same functions.
> Rock solid syncing capabilities. No drifting!!
> Custom foot controller similer to the FCB1010, except smaller. With 10 
> or so built in options of layouts. But also capable of custom layouts.
> 10 gigs of storage.
> Small Bluetooth LCD display screen that can be mounted to a mic stand.
> Firewire, or USB connections.
> Balanced and Unbalanced outs.
> VST interface so the entire unit can be placed into DAW's and be 
> controlled seamlessly.
> 1 Rack space
> under $300
> Free 24 hour support line.
>  
> Now, get busy.
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> MFC
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>     -------------- Original message --------------
>     From: "GORDIUS info" <info@gordius.be>
>
>     >
>     > I'd like to add one question to this :
>     > What kind of (physical) volume control device do you target,
>     Bob? Something
>     > else than a foot pedal?
>     > I'm asking, because I am currently testing out a new design for a
>     > MIDI-controlled foot pedal. And to me it seems that the
>     "physical range" of
>     > a standard foot pedal is no more than 7 bit. I mean : I have
>     trouble making
>     > small enough movements to change the control value with 1 single
>     step in the
>     > 128-value range. Therefore I believe a 10-bit ADC wouldn't make
>     any sense
>     > when using a footpedal, but maybe you have another type of
>     controller in
>     > mind?
>     >
>     > (if you intend to manipulate the linear footpedal range and make
>     it a
>     > non-linear transition cur ve, I would believe you will get much
>     better
>     > results just using a 7-bit to n-bit lookup table in firmware,
>     rather than
>     > doing it with some analog signal manipulation followed by 10-bit AD
>     > conversion).
>     >
>     > Xavier
>     > http://www.gordius.be
>     >
>     >
>     > -----Original Message-----
>     > From: Jeffrey Larson [mailto:jeff@zonemobius.com]
>     > Sent: zaterdag 17 februari 2007 23:35
>     > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>     > Subject: Re: Considering building an ultimate looper...
>     >
>     > Ok, here's some friendly advice.
>     >
>     > Be careful tossing out words like "ultimate looper" on this
>     list. So far
>     > you've described a rather basic looper, except that you seem to
>     be obsessed
>     > with the resolution of the output level control. In all the wish
>     lists and
>     > product reviews that appear regularly on this list, this is not
>     a feature
>     > that I remember being mentioned.
>     >
>     > If you're intending to compete in the hardware looper market, I
>     would be
>     > much more concerned about things like continuous feedback,
>     synchronization
>     > with external MIDI clocks, pitch and rate shifting, and
>     "editing" functions
>     > like insert, multiply, replace, etc.
>     >
>     > Second, the insinuation that the Looperlative is not
>     "professional level" is
>     > likely to annoy the many professional level musicians that use
>     it, as well
>     > as the professional level musicians that use other devices and
>     software with
>     > a MIDI volume control.
>     >
>     > Quick show of hands. Does anyone find that their musical
>     ambitions are
>     > being stymied by the resolution of their volume pedal?
>     >
>     > I don't doubt that there are devices that could do a better job
>     smoothing
>     > controller changes, or providing a more musically useful
>     attenuation curve
>     > at the top end of the range. But there are software soluti ons
>     to these
>     > problems that are quite effective if not perfect.
>     >
>     > I don't mean to sound discouraging, but this strikes me as a
>     rather odd
>     > feature to be focusing on. Before you start investing money in this
>     > venture, be sure you have a good understanding of the market for
>     hardware
>     > loopers.
>     >
>     > Jeff
>     > 
>